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Page 9 of 11 <br />LeAnn Brown said she had asked to keep this hearing brief because she was scheduled for surgery the following 1 <br />morning and Andy Petesch had agreed to askfor this hearing to be bifurcated out of professional courtesy to her and 2 <br />because they both agreed that the decision tonight would be important in determining what happens next. 3 <br /> 4 <br />MOTION by Barry Katz toclose the public hearing. Seconded by Susan Halkiotis. 5 <br />6 <br />VOTE:UNANIMOUS7 <br /> 8 <br />Karen Barrows asked Susan Halkiotis for her thoughts. 9 <br />10 <br />Susan Halkitios thanked Randy Herman for hisquestions. She said she is squeamish about being overreaching. She 11 <br />thinks Andy Petesch madegood arguments. However, she comes down ontheside of allowing the subpoenas to be 12 <br />issued. Without the subpoenas and information, there are remaining questions to be answered. Herposition is to allow 13 <br />the subpoenas to be issued. 14 <br />15 <br />Karen Barrows asked Randy Herman to expresshis thoughts.Randy Herman said he thinks it is legitimate to ask 16 <br />whether the entitythat owned the propertywasissued the certificate. He does notthink the rest is within the scopeof 17 <br />this board.He does not think it is within the scope of this board to look behind the Department of Revenue’s decision. 18 <br />So, if it is possible to rewrite the request to limit the subpoenas only to the issues of identity, he would be in favor of 19 <br />that. He deferred to the county attorney on whether or not the board can do that. 20 <br />21 <br />Susan Halkiotis said she had a related question. LeAnnBrown mentioned questions about thequalifying financial 22 <br />information to gain one of the farm tax exemptions. Susan Halkiotis does not know how that is unraveled when the 23 <br />question of the entities is resolved. Ifinformation was given to acquire a certificate and that certificate was then used to 24 <br />base a decision on, and the certificate should nothave beenissued, then the whole thing falls apart. 25 <br />26 <br />Randy Herman said even if theoretically in another case fraudulent information was provided to obtain the certificate, he 27 <br />does notthink the countycan look behind it. Hethinksthe only question this boardcan look at is whether the entity 28 <br />issued the certificate was the one that owned the property.His opinion is that the board does not have the power to 29 <br />look at whether the Departmentof Revenue miscalculated the revenue. 30 <br />31 <br />Barry Katz said this is the kind of information that the boardneedsto know and would be argued before us at the next 32 <br />hearing we have with these parties. He then said he was not sure whether Randy Herman is a lawyerand giving a legal 33 <br />opinion. He is in favor of issuing the subpoenas and that LeAnn Brown and her party have a legitimate right to have this 34 <br />information. 35 <br />36 <br />Randy Herman said he is an attorney, but there is no case lawthat he is aware of on the interpretation of these 37 <br />statutes.His opinion is based on what he thinks is a straightforward reading of the statutes. 38 <br />39 <br />Karen Barrows said she agrees withSusan Halkiotis and BarryKatzthat the boardshould allow the subpoenas to go 40 <br />forward, for the reasons they have stated. 41 <br />42 <br />MOTION by Barry Katz toissues the subpoenas.Seconded by Susan Halkiotis. 43 <br />44 <br />VOTE:3-1(RANDY HERMANFOR REASONS PREVIOUSLY STATED) 45 <br />46 <br />Karen Barrows called for a vote to adjourn. 47 <br />48 <br />Michael Harvey said that before adjournment the board needed to set the date for the next hearing on this case, with 49 <br />guidance from James Bryan. 50 <br />102