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7 <br />Dr. Arvik asked how –without (g) --law enforcement or a neighbor would know that somebody <br />is shooting improperly. How would we know a situation exists where there is a likelihood of an <br />errant bullet? Dr. Arvik reiterated the situation he witnessed in May, where a trained individual <br />was on his own property shooting into crushed rock toward a neighborhood less than 100 yards <br />away. Law enforcement had nothing it could use to stop that man from shooting. Section (g) <br />would give law enforcement the ability to say, “I received the noise complaint, heard the <br />shootingmyself, investigatedfurther, determined that the situation was not right, and intervened <br />to stop the shooter before injury or damage occurred.” The only reason the deputy would know <br />about the shooter was the noise, so you can’t separate the noise complaint from the incident. <br />Mr. Tilley said that if sections (c) and (e) had been in force during that situation in May then the <br />law enforcement officers could have intervened to stop the shooter. Section (g) would not have <br />been needed, he said. A neighbor can hear shooting, call 911, and get an investigation into the <br />safety of the situation without section (g). <br />Dr. Arvik said that if a neighbor or law enforcement officer does not hear an errant shot, then the <br />only sound will be when that bullet strikes a person or someone else’s property. That’s too late, <br />he said. Something has to trigger that phone call. That is why we need section (g), and training <br />for the deputies, which Deputy Chief Sykes has assured me is happening, he said. <br />Ms. Barksdale said that she likes having the two civilian complainants as necessary complements <br />to the law enforcement officer in section (g). It’s unfair to have the law enforcement officer as <br />the sole person makingthe complaint about the noise. <br />Mr. Tesoro said that (g) is far too subjective to be enforceable or fair. It leaves too much up to <br />the discretion of neighbors, especially nasty neighbors. I see no reason why, if someone sees a <br />dangerous situation as Dr. Arvik did, you need an ordinance with a noise provision to stop the <br />shooter. Dr. Arvik replied that he had heard the shooting before he saw it. Mr. Tesoro said that if <br />you hear gun fire you can call 911 and get a response even without (g) inthe ordinance. <br />In reply to a question from Mr. Tesoro, Chief Deputy Sykes said –off the top of his head --that <br />his office responded to something along the lines of 450 calls regarding gun shots throughout the <br />year in 2012. Don’t hold me to that number, he said. But we responded to the report of gun fire <br />and investigated. Dr. Arvik replied that in May he called 911 three times, and had to argue with <br />the operator to get somebody to come out while the shooting was taking place. It wasn’t so bad <br />when he was shooting a .22 pistol. But then he pulled out an AR-15 .223. The deputysaid it was <br />only a .22, and he had no authority to stop the shooter because the shooter was on his own <br />private land. It was a Saturday afternoon and he was shooting into my neighborhood where there <br />were 7 preschoolers running around. I want something that will give law enforcement the
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