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6 <br />In reply to questions from Dr. Arvik, Chief Deputy Sykes said that if paragraph (h) were in effect <br />and a complaint were made about sustained shooting, then the Sheriff’s Office would be able – <br />does have the training --to assess the situation to determine if the noise were unreasonably loud <br />and disturbing. Let’s say someone calls to complain that a neighbor has been shooting for 45 <br />minutes, he said. If the caller knows the address from which the shooting noise is coming, then <br />we will go there. If the caller does not know the address then we will go to the area and listen in <br />order to determine where the noise is coming from, and go there. Ninety nine percent of our <br />encounters are positive when we introduce ourselves at the scene: the shooter explains something <br />reasonable to explain the sustained shooting, like he hasa new rifle and is having trouble <br />sighting it in, or he is with his grandson and they’re shooting safely. It is not unusual for a <br />shooter to say that if he is disturbing a neighbor then he’ll finish soon or immediately. <br />Throughout the year we will encounter one or two individuals who tell us to leave their property, <br />who assert their legal right to shoot, who insist that we not interfere with their shooting. They <br />know that since there is no applicable nuisance ordinance that they are not breaking the law. <br />Every officer that responds to these calls uses every tool in their bag to come to a positive <br />outcome. Good common sense on everyone’s part, and good relations with your neighbors, goes <br />far in these situations. It depends on how valuable people consider those relationships with their <br />neighbors to be. Repeated calls to the police can undermine that. So most of what we do now in <br />the absence of an ordinance is to gain cooperation among all the neighbors. We can work it out <br />most of the time. <br />Paragraph (h) would be helpful to us, he said, especially if we adopted Mr. Kirkland’s suggestion <br />to allow for two complainants “and” the law enforcement officer to make the prima facie case. <br />You factor that in to a common sense response by the officer, and you can figure out very <br />quickly if either of the parties are acting maliciously, to antagonize their neighbors, and the feud <br />has been going on for weeks and weeks and weeks; that will be evident. But our observations <br />alone would be difficult to prosecute. Without having the civilian complainants we would not <br />have a victim’s flag to wave in the courtroom. It might be construed that the officer has singled <br />out the defendant to make his life hard. If we had complainants to stand with us then it would <br />make it easier in the courtroom. <br />The Committee took a straw poll to evaluate the options for (h). No one voted to keep (h) as it <br />appeared in the current draft. Six (all but Mr. Hunnell and Mr. Tesoro) were in favor of changing <br />the “or” to “and.” Nobody voted to remove the civilian complainants from the paragraph. One <br />person (Mr. Hunnell) voted to incorporate a rule regarding distance from schools or houses of <br />worship. Mr. Hunnell declined the facilitator’s invitation to make further argument, perhaps to <br />sway his seven colleaguesto support a distance rule. <br />Mr. Tesoro reiterated that his struggle was with the subjective determination of firearms noise <br />being “unreasonably loud, disturbing, and unnecessary.” He asked anyone to explain how a
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