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5 <br /> <br />verbiage to go along with enforcement then it just opens up a can of worms for the other side to <br />say, for example, that the officer did not calibrate his equipment correctly or exactly where – <br />show us on a GPS overlay map --was the officer standing when he took the measurement. In <br />my experience, even with a loud party we get very little to go on using our meters. We rely a lot <br />of times on our conversation with the party hosts, asking themto reposition or turn down their <br />outdoor speakers, and gaining compliance that way. We do not like trying to prove in court under <br />the County noise ordinance that there has been a violation. The rules are not bad: they come from <br />the State and that is how the State operates. It is just very difficult to issue a citation that will <br />hold up in court. <br />In reply to a question from Mr. Hunnell, Commissioner McKee said that the incorporation of a <br />public shooting range into the firefighter/law enforcement training facility that is under early <br />discussion by the County is “more of a long term conversation” that might reach fruition 1-3 <br />years from now. <br />In reply to a question from Mr. Hunnell, Chief Sykes said that he knew of no Sheriff’s Office <br />facility where a training range for young people could be set up, for example, in a basement. <br />Officer Orr said that the NC Wildlife Commission’s hunter safety classes addressed perceptions <br />regarding hunting. We explain that about 5% of the population actively opposes hunting, 5% is <br />pro-hunting, and 90% can take it either way. The behavior of people in either of the poles can <br />influence the opinions of those inthe 90%. We also have a mobile pellet range through which we <br />can introduce young people to safe shooting. About two years ago one person associated with a <br />Girl Scout troop was reluctant for us to bring the mobile range to the troop, but we gained <br />permission to bring it and not only did everyone have a good time but the person who was <br />reluctant became an enthusiastic supporter of us coming back the next year. I would be very <br />interested in us partnering with the County to promote positive perceptions about safe shooting, <br />he said. I have worked with Orange County Safe Kids, which also is interested in safe bicycle <br />use and car seats, to set up the mobile pellet range at community events; as well as the YMCA in <br />Chapel Hill, and Blackwood Farm.Ms. Barksdale said that she would like to see more <br />educational opportunities for young people to learn about firearms safety, so that more people <br />will perceive more positively that responsible people know what they are doing with their guns. <br />Ms. Conti said that much of the negative perceptions about firearms safety is associated with the <br />noise. Some residents of Orange County become afraid when they hear gunfire. An ordinance <br />against unreasonable and burdensome gunfire noise would be a deterrent against those who <br />would create such noise, and so diminish negative perceptions. Mr. Tilley said that he is hearing <br />from Chief Sykes, Mr. Webster, and Mr. Kirkland that a decibel-based approach to gunfire noise <br />would be difficult to implement; if so then that approach would not be a deterrent, he said. Ms. <br />Conti said that a well-publicized ordinance, even if it is difficult to implement, can send a signal <br />that the community expects noise from gunfire to be reasonableand not burdensome. <br />Mr. Tilley said that he thinks the Committee is ready to decide on whether or not an ordinance is <br />needed.Mr. Tesoro said that he is still thinking of safety and noise as “perceived” problems. I <br />don’t think any of us has agreed that there is a real problem, he said. I think the facilitator forced <br />adecision on this at the July 20 meeting, he said, and I have had some time to think about it and
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