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Dan Kenan felt that there had to be some kind of limit eventually. He was concerned that if the population kept expanding, there would not be anything left for future generations to buy because everything would be developed. He preferred that things "precious and valuable" such as Duke Forest and open space be saved. Though very few entities could afford to save large undeveloped tracts of land, he felt that Duke University could do this. He didn't want to see the Eno Division of Duke Forest end up like the Blackwood Division may, i.e., potential landfill. He said he travels a lot on the back roads of Orange County and appreciates the vistas and farmland he passes. Increased density will negatively impact what makes his land valuable to him and probably to others as well. As a final point, he agreed with others who said they would like to see agriculture preserved as an activity in this part of Orange County. Bob Strayhorn said, "To have a good agricultural area, you need to have good agricultural land and unfortunately, we are really not blessed with that." Land in the Stoney Creek area was fine for farming until about the mid 1950's, but the size of fields and type of soil in the, area makes it difficult to compete with better areas. To survive, agriculture will have to change drastically and Strayhorn said it bothered him to see the changes that have taken place. His vision 30 years ago would have been to try to continue the agricultural tradition. He cited opportunities available in the city where a person could earn twice the income they would have from farming plus receive benefits too. He also said it bothered him to sit around the table with neighbors and have contrasting views for the area. Historically, neighbors have had to pull together to survive. He said the rural perspective had always been, "If you wanted something, you tried to find a way to purchase it." He cited examples of community facilities in Cedar Grove, Caldwell, and Schley financed by the Ruritan Club and churches at no cost to taxpayers. He said it bothered him that this view was fading away and that now many people seemed to view land being taken out of agriculture as suitable for acquisition by government for parks and other public uses. There are property rights and the same protections should exist for large property owners as well as small ones. There has to be a balance somewhere. His vision would be to have something similar to the Rural Character strategies instead of mandated restrictions such as no water or no sewer. Strayhorn said he was not promoting water and sewer, but would rather see restrictions on the number of houses that could be built. He said if water and sewer was across the road from someone, it was not right for them not to have the benefits of it. Strayhorn concluded by saying he had more frustrations than visions at present. Keith Cook said�he wanted to piggyback on Bob Strayhorn's vision. He said the individual who already owns the property needs to be looked out for. Changes are coming and we need to be more negotiable. People have moved here for the opportunities and M