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Approved 1/19/12 <br />4 <br />Tom Altieri: I think it is reference, sources, what is the CTP and information about how the maps were put together. I 163 get the impression we have the latitude to add what we think is appropriate in that area for supporting information. 164 165 Jeff Charles: Let me comment about recreational cycling versus commuting. A number of the roads currently on the 166 bicycle plan are, I think, roads that dove tail into Durham County’s Plan for Commuting from the Durham area to 167 Chapel Hill. An example is Whitfield Road. We need to look at why certain roads were included where it butts up 168 against Durham County. 169 170 Paul Guthrie: In the southeastern corner, Mt. Carmel connecting to Farrington connecting up to Stagecoach and 171 then 55 is a bicycle route to the RTP that avoids major highways. If you go at the rush hour times, you will find six to 172 eight people taking the six or seven miles to RTP. That kind of roads exist in other places but it doesn’t show up in 173 our map is because Mt. Carmel is NC2 for bicycles. It is more for pleasure riding. 174 175 Craig Benedict: That is where the text needs to explain the roads shown on this bicycle map are for both purposes. 176 If there is an explanation, then the maps become more understandable. You mentioned the Light Rail connection. 177 178 Tom Altieri: I don’t know if it was mentioned specifically but the whole Orange County Transit Plan and how does it 179 tie into it. 180 181 Nancy Baker: Isn’t that sort of thing mostly on an MPO plan? 182 183 Tom Altieri: Exactly. The whole idea is this is mentioned in the spirit of that coordination and it would be better to 184 have the two plans going together instead of this one so far out in front. Orange County does have the opportunity 185 when the MPO plan is adopted to readopt the whole thing as one package. 186 187 Randy Marshall: Did I understand you to say that Durham has a commuter bike route planned and we need to 188 acknowledge that? 189 190 Jeff Charles: I have been interacting with Bo Glenn who has been active in transportation in Durham County. We 191 were discussing Whitfield Road specifically and I ask why did that get there and he said there was the whole 192 connection coming up 751 taking Erwin 751 back onto Erwin coming up there and then using Whitfield as the natural 193 road to come up to get over to Martin Luther King and also over to Eubanks. Erwin Road is not a good place to ride 194 a bicycle either. I am not sure we can get a lot of commuting like that and it is not used for recreational. There is a 195 dovetail there. 196 197 Nancy Baker: There is a potential for it to be a good route for commuters if it is improved. 198 199 Jeff Charles: Yes but I still question whether there is enough rationale for that to occur from that area of Durham. 200 201 Randy Marshall: It may be an option for those who live in Chapel Hill who work at Duke might use that. 202 203 Jeff Charles: They chose that instead of some of the other roads because of the traffic pattern. 204 205 Randy Marshall: Weaver Dairy will have bike lanes. 206 207 Jeff Charles: Because of the high school. 208 209 Paul Guthrie: I have been concerned that the different jurisdictional plannings that are going on have no visible link. 210 We did get information from staff as to where those links might be but it doesn’t show up in the plans and at some 211 point, the commissioners need a map that shows the connections around the entire border because of the rural plan 212 and if it is only one map showing there is a linkage there, it would improve the whole ability for them to conceive what 213 is going on in the plans. 214 215