Browse
Search
Minutes 04-17-2018
OrangeCountyNC
>
Board of County Commissioners
>
Minutes - Approved
>
2010's
>
2018
>
Minutes 04-17-2018
Metadata
Thumbnails
Annotations
Entry Properties
Last modified
3/11/2019 2:53:56 PM
Creation date
5/8/2018 11:19:49 AM
Metadata
Fields
Template:
BOCC
Date
4/17/2018
Meeting Type
Regular Meeting
Document Type
Minutes
Agenda Item
5/1/18; 8-a
Document Relationships
Agenda - 04-20-2018 Regular Meeting
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 4-a - Discussion with Orange County's Legislative Delegation
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 4-b - Board of Adjustment Overview
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 4-c - Orange County Partnership to End Homelessness 2017 Report
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 4-d - County Government Month
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 4-e - Resolution in Support of 3DaysCount™
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 6-a - Major Subdivision Preliminary Plat Application – Triple Crown Farms
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 8-a - Minutes
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 8-b - Fiscal Year 2017-18 Budget Amendment #8
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 8-c - Application for NC Education Lottery Proceeds for CHCCS and Contingent Approval of BA #8-A Related to CHCCS Capital Project Ordinances
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 8-d - Resolution of Approval – Conservation Easement Amendment for Keith Arboretum
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 8-e - Comprehensive Plan and Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) Amendment Outline Form Modification – Home Park Acreage Increase and Additional Land Uses
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda - 04-20-2018 8-f - Board of Commissioners - Chatham Orange Joint Planning Task Force
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda- 04-20-2018 12-1 - Information Item - April 3, 2018 BOCC Meeting Follow-up Actions List
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
Agenda- 04-20-2018 12-2 - Information Item - Orange County Sustainability and Environmental Responsibility Goal Update
(Attachment)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\BOCC Agendas\2010's\2018\Agenda - 04-17-2018 Regular Meeting
ORD-2018-013 Fiscal Year 2017-18 Budget Amendment #8
(Message)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\Ordinances\Ordinance 2010-2019\2018
ORD-2018-014 Application for Lottery Proceeds for CHCCS - Budget Amendment #8-A
(Message)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\Ordinances\Ordinance 2010-2019\2018
PRO-2018-004 Proclamation for County Government Month
(Message)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\Proclamations\2010-2019\2018
RES-2018-020 Resolution approving revised preliminary plan for Triple Crown Farms
(Message)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\Resolutions\2010-2019\2018
RES-2018-025 Resolution in support of 3DaysCount
(Message)
Path:
\Board of County Commissioners\Resolutions\2010-2019\2018
There are no annotations on this page.
Document management portal powered by Laserfiche WebLink 9 © 1998-2015
Laserfiche.
All rights reserved.
/
28
PDF
Print
Pages to print
Enter page numbers and/or page ranges separated by commas. For example, 1,3,5-12.
After downloading, print the document using a PDF reader (e.g. Adobe Reader).
View images
View plain text
13 <br /> <br />there is a controversial issue; but in larger governments, county attorneys almost always attend. <br />He said some larger jurisdictions hire outside counsel to represent the BOA, especially if the <br />county attorney is an active participant in the hearing on behalf of the staff whose decision is <br />being appealed. He said it would be unethical for the county attorney to advise the BOA and <br />represent the staff at the same time. He said Raleigh and Charlotte tend to have outside <br />counsel for the BOA all of the time. He said another variation that is sometimes used in larger <br />jurisdictions, is when there are multiple members of the city or county attorney staff, and they <br />will split up the duties, with one attorney advising the BOA, and another advising the staff if <br />necessary. <br />Chair Dorosin referred to the scenario where the attorney wears multiple hats, and <br />asked if this can occur in all three of the matters typically heard by BOAs, or is it more often <br />with appeals. <br />David Owens said it happens most often if there is a question of interpretation; where <br />someone has applied for a variance or a SUP. He said in many jurisdictions staff does not take <br />a position, so the attorney is generally working with the BOA, since he is not working with staff. <br />He said the appeals are different because sometimes staff makes a determination without <br />consulting the attorney. He said staff can ask an attorney to interpret laws, as can the BOA. <br />He said when additional counsel is hired, it is typically due to workload, as opposed to conflict of <br />interest. <br /> <br />PUBLIC COMMENT <br />Laura Streitfeld said she is here with Preserve Rural Orange, and thanked the BOCC for <br />adding this item to the agenda. She said she brought this request to the Board of County <br />Commissioners so as to look at the role of the BOA; access to public records; recording of BOA <br />meetings; and for considering the bona fide farm use as a priority with the legislative <br />delegation. She asked the BOCC to consider if using outside counsel would be appropriate <br />when the County Attorney is directly involved in the decision making process. She said the <br />bona fide farm item is of particular interest, and there are three properties in the County <br />operating event centers, while claiming bona fide farm use. She said there has been <br />legislation, since the BOCC prioritized this item last year, but the way that item #24 is worded <br />really lays out the question of whether the primary use should be agriculture, with marketing <br />and agritourism as secondary uses, in order to claim exemptions from zoning. <br /> Commissioner Rich said Professor Owens spoke of outside counsel being necessary <br />due to high caseloads, and asked John Roberts if he knows the number of cases in Orange <br />County on a yearly basis. <br />John Roberts said the BOA meets 6-8 times per year, with usually one or two cases per <br />meeting. He said Orange County does not have nearly the caseload of larger entities. <br />Commissioner Rich clarified that there are 10-12 cases per year. <br />John Roberts said there was a slow down during the recession, but that is about <br />average. <br />Commissioner McKee said he has previously advocated for independent counsel for the <br />BOA, and his concern is not impropriety of staff or counsel, but rather it is one of perception. <br />He said having in house counsel can give the perception that the County Attorney is covering <br />the County’s position. He said he supports outside counsel, and does not think this would be a <br />funding issue due to their being a small number of cases. <br />Commissioner Price asked if a staff attorney is present at all BOA meetings. <br />John Roberts said Staff Attorney James Bryan attends all BOA Meetings, and he does <br />not advocate on behalf of staff at the BOA meetings. He said the attorney can answer a <br />planning staff question before it makes its way to the BOA, but the attorney does not advocate
The URL can be used to link to this page
Your browser does not support the video tag.