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862 Dillon Manship: Correct, depending on the day. <br />863 <br />864 Neese - Brown: Are you aware that the American Legion has agreed to a condition that at all times it will <br />865 comply with all ordinances? <br />866 <br />867 Dillon Manship: Correct, but doesn't this say that amplified music could reach 54 at my property and 59 at <br />868 another property, so then wouldn't amplified music refute that statement? <br />869 <br />870 Neese - Brown: Wouldn't a condition that they turn it down so that it meets the ordinance solve the concern. <br />871 <br />872 Dillon Manship: Yes. <br />873 <br />874 Neese - Brown: I have no further questions. <br />875 <br />876 Chairwoman Cabe: I believe you had additional concerns you wanted to bring up. You said you had more <br />877 than one and we kind of got on a tangent with the acoustical concern. Did you have other concerns that you <br />878 wanted to bring up to the board? <br />879 <br />880 Dillon Manship: Ultimately, that Commander Munsee and the American Legion in all of our previous <br />881 meetings have used the words probably and potentially and maybe a lot. They said they would probably <br />882 have a baseball field and on here it's drawn as a soccer field and so I don't think they know their intentions. <br />883 All I'm trying to do is not let them cast a big net so that they fill it up with whatever they want. I want them to <br />884 be specific so that, as in the past, at the Barn at Chapel Hill has been done. Neighbors in the past have <br />885 raised the concern about noise so I think cancel outdoor amplification and everything would be fine. <br />886 <br />887 Chairwoman Cabe: Does the board have any questions for this witness? Is that all you want us to address? <br />888 <br />889 Dillon Manship: Sure. <br />890 <br />891 Chairwoman Cabe: Ms. Brown, you had mentioned when Mr. Manship testified about or began to testify <br />892 about the county's position on outdoor amplification at the Barn at Valhalla, you said that staff could testify <br />893 to that. Did you want to call them to testify to that further. No, I guess only if the board has questions about <br />894 how that condition came to be. I don't know about the Barn at Chapel Hill except that I know the Barn at <br />895 Chapel Hill doesn't have a special use permit. If the board is interested in how that condition came to be, <br />896 then I'm certainly happy to have a discussion ..... <br />897 <br />898 Chairwoman Cabe: Mr. Harvey, if you could tell us how the condition on the Barn of Valhalla regarding <br />899 outdoor amplification came to be. <br />900 <br />901 Michael Harvey: My recollection of the public hearing and the application is that Mr. Gilligan, who was the <br />902 developer, had established retreat center activities without obtaining first a Special Use Permit. He went <br />903 through the process to bring the property into compliance with Unified Development Ordinance. At the time, <br />904 there were neighbors within 500 feet of the property lines who were concerned that they would be able to <br />905 hear any outdoor amplified music. To which, one person on staff and the property owner, Mr. Gilligan, <br />906 suggested the condition limiting outdoor amplified music to address that concern. Because there are <br />907 residences closer to the Barn at Valhalla than there are to the American Legion property. I'll also remind <br />908 this board that the Barn at Valhalla Special Use Permit was originally denied by the Board of Adjustment. It <br />909 was appealed in Orange County Superior Court. That denial was reversed and when it came back, it was <br />27 <br />