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718 capacity for indoor is for 250 persons and they plan to rent out the space. Wouldn't all 250 persons be 719 allowed at the ball park and wouldn't that completely or 2.5 times their noise study? It just goes to bring up 720 the point that the athletic field is probably going to be the most sound - producing thing at the facility. I don't 721 care what they do inside. That seems fine. But my goal here today is to figure out the noise situation for 722 American Legion Post 6 moving forward. Like Commander Munsee brought up, this isn't the only group of 723 American Legion members who are going to be using this facility. They have been at their place for 50 724 years now, so generations to come will be using this facility. Those generations will be cast broad slate 725 tonight. These will be the laws that they will have to abide by. So, if we give them a blank slate tonight 726 when it comes to noise, then they can do whatever they want to down the road. 727 728 Chairwoman Cabe: Subject to our ordinances. 729 730 Dillon Manship: Correct. But that potentially includes potentially putting up loudspeakers for their baseball 731 games and announcing the baseball games, soccer games. That includes putting up sound speakers and 732 holding outdoor concerts, including full weekend festivals. 733 734 Chairwoman Cabe: Are you suggesting that the allowance of the Special Use Permit allows them to go 735 beyond the bounds of our noise ordinance? Because... 736 737 Dillon Manship: I am not. I am just pointing out things that could ... if they have in their Special Use Permit 738 that they are not allowed outdoor amplification, then they could not apply for a permit to have an outdoor 739 concert or apply for a permit to erect outdoor speakers or have a sound system for their ball field. And so, 740 as a business owner of the Barn at Valhalla, our Special Use Permit clearly addresses that there should be 741 no outdoor amplification. The other venue down the road that was brought up, the Barn at Chapel Hill, their 742 Special Use Permit clearly spells out no outdoor amplification. So, this is my first quasi - judicial public 743 hearing and I've not been to a court case ... I actually have jury duty tomorrow... but I don't know if this 744 board slate SUP is allowing them to do everything or if you all are going to say yes, stamp, no, stamp. If 745 there is any gray area in between, I'm just trying to point out that gray area that there should be no 746 recreation field because it produces too much noise and no outdoor amplification because it produces too 747 much noise. I know the basic dB(A) reading that you have a handout. I was emailed a separate handout 748 that was dealt to the Barn at Valhalla and other neighbors but at 85 decibels, they produced out, their 749 closest neighbor was receiving 59 decibels, which is over the allowed limit. So they said if you back down 750 the decibels to under 79, then it was under 50, which is the allowable limit. So even at the standard 751 amplification, they had to back it down to get to the levels allowed by Orange County. Obviously, amplified 752 speakers have been a problem in the past. Since this is quasi - judicial and court proceedings are based on 753 precedent and this has already been done at the Barn at Valhalla several years ago and has already been 754 done with the Barn at Chapel Hill earlier this year and both hearings and all neighbors around the area said 755 no outdoor amplification, even though this is the American Legion, they are still an event center being 756 rented out as an event center and they should fall under the same categories of all the other event centers 757 in the area, which is no outdoor amplification. 758 759 Chairwoman Cabe: The permit for the Barn at Valhalla was approved before I was on the board. Were they 760 seeking to add ball fields? 761 762 Dillon Manship: No. 763 764 Chairwoman Cabe: Are there any other neighbors here? You are the only neighboring property owner 765 asking us to consider restricting outdoor amplification for this particular spot. 24