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D R A F T <br />Paul Guthrie added that it depends on how you look at it and that this study is a narrow study and doesn’t look at 46 <br />economic cost. 47 <br />Darcy reviewed the alternative analysis options. 48 <br />49 <br />Paul Guthrie commented that his perception is that the only thing that will redirect development coming in the next 30 50 <br />years is some form of a transit intense plan. Anything less that at least a good percentage of that will simply have the 51 <br />growth and expansion occur around existing corridors and that will automatically continue what we have always had, 52 <br />namely, we’ll be pouring a lot of money into roads that are getting slower and slower and bigger and bigger. I realize 53 <br />this is an analysis but if it isn’t presented in the right way, people will not realize that basically if you’re not careful 54 <br />they’ll end up in 30 years in the same transit mess we’re in now.55 <br />56 <br />Darcy Zorio reviewed the OUTBoard submitted comments from the 2008 MPO LRTP. 57 <br />58 <br />Nancy Baker suggest that they tell the BOCC that some of the larger ramifications of this plan are not presented here 59 <br />thatthere will be great economic benefits that they need to keep in mind that may not be included in the presentation 60 <br />and to look broader.61 <br />62 <br />Paul Guthrie noted that from a management standpoint, managing this system, you biggest bang for the buck would 63 <br />be putting high transit investments into in a staggered way and not start all of them in 2025 and hope they happen by 64 <br />2040. A good model on that is Wake County. The Wake County Board of Commissioners refused to go along with 65 <br />the Raleigh City Council so what is Raleigh going to go ahead and do? They are going to go ahead and set up their 66 <br />bus lines with stop along the future transit route so that they have their customers in place on motorized 67 <br />transportation when they get to another form of transportation. That’sthe kind of strategic planning where you put 68 <br />your investments to not only build it in the most economical way but you build your base of clients so that they are in 69 <br />fact accustomed of using it when it does occur. The places in the U.S. where it is works the best, that’s the way they 70 <br />work it.71 <br />72 <br />Jeff Charles added that Durham County is talking about doing it that way as well. They are going to implement the 73 <br />bus first, build the clientele before the light rail goes in.74 <br />75 <br />The OUTBoard discussed the lack of bicycle and pedestrian plans and the consensus of the OUTBoard was that the 76 <br />plan should include bicycle and pedestrian. 77 <br />78 <br />Paul Guthrie had the following comments:79 <br />Look at the whole network and look at the interest of Orange County, the specifics of Orange County as it relates to 80 <br />our existing zoning, etc.; 81 <br />It should have an economic approach, the use of tools, etc.;82 <br />It should look at long term cost and livability and environment impact, and economic cost to the community; 83 <br />Policy coordination down the road so little pieces don’t go off in all areas; 84 <br />Jurisdictional control and to reemphasize that this is a long term plan and implementing a long term plan requires 85 <br />jurisdictional coordination as well as all the other things. Then point out that at some point it only works if you look at 86 <br />the whole picture and plan those things that lead up to making the end product worthwhile. Let me add that it 87 <br />becomes part of building the network so you not only work on the early transit activity but you also built the 88 <br />community’s interest in use. One of the ways is to build walkways, bikeways and try to encourage feeder routes…….89 <br />
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