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D R A F T Bret Martin: This iswhat we worked off of before. At the division level, the MPO/RPO rank has always been a hefty 110 40% which is profound. For quantitative data, this is the scoring criteria.111 112 Ted Triebel: I appreciateyour excellent presentation. Regarding the economic competitiveness under the Statewide 113 MobilityFormula, I understand they are pushing to make that 15% to 20% instead of 10%, have you heard that? The 114 Board of Transportation chair wanted to get that 15% to 20% andthis has not yet been approved on Jones Street.115 116 Bret Martin: I didn’t know that.117 118 Paul Guthrie: It occurs to me that since so many of the projects will require federal involvement and a fairly 119 significant financial investment, has anyone determined if this will pass the environmental impact test?120 121 Bret Martin: The NEPAprocess is project level. One of the things I was concerned about was thatthe original 122 proposalwas to do 40/40/20 instead of 40/40/30,and I stated I don’t think it is legally possible to do that under 123 federal laws governing what could be done with the portions provided to the states from the federal highway trust 124 fund. That was changed at the division levelbecause a large part of the money they get from the federal government125 must be dividedup by population. They changed it from 40/40/20 to 40/30/30.I don’t know how the NEPA process 126 would impact any of this.127 128 Paul Guthrie: Obviously on a project by project basis.129 130 Bret Martin: Part of the NEPA process requires for a need and purpose to be established for each project and there 131 has to be a case made before you can use federal money.132 133 Paul Guthrie: I have a map produced on the daily traffic volumes of US interstate highway systems across the United 134 States and the highest travel routes that I would like to share. I-40/85from Durham to Winston-Salem is one of the 135 highest peak highway interstate traffic problems in the country from the standpoint of this map. I don’t think we are 136 dividing up the money on this formula with that in mind.137 138 Jeff Miles: How often are the division rank and the MPO/RPO that different? 139 140 Bret Martin: Every MPO/RPO has an internal ranking process. Typically, they have tried to make their scoring 141 methodology similar to that of the state because they don’t want to have criterion that worksagainst the state. The 142 division rank is the same criteria as what you see here.(Continued presentation).143 144 Jeff Charles: DOT controls 75% and the division rank of 25%. The MPO/RPO had 35% before and now it has only 145 25%. From my perspective we have less input under the new system.146 147 Bret Martin: The division ranking criteria can change. Regions and divisions can devise their own methods.148 149 Jeff Charles: How do we get our division to do this?150 151 Bret Martin: We need to get all the MPOs and RPOs in our division to agree to it. You can adopt a variation of 152 scoring factors. 153 154 Abigail Pittman: Do we have to wait until 2015?155 156 Jeff Charles: Because we didn’t do it soon enough we have to wait until 2015.157 158 Paul Guthrie: We are not be able to change itnowbut if we wish to get it changed and make an argument at that159 time that these are the factors we should be using to score theprojects we should be funding and be loud enough, it 160 might be effective.161 162 Bret Martin: Scoring criteriahave to be approved by the Board of Transportation. Part of the reason they set a 163 deadline is because they tried to say these are the rules, no more changing. (Continued presentation).164 5