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D R A F T 168 Chuck Edwards: It has been looked at. Recommendations have been made for internal improvements. We will be 169 glad to revisit that.170 171 Jeff Charles: The ChapelHill Bike Ped Board received a letter from a gentlemanthat lived of Whitfield and he walks 172 into Chapel Hill area and his concern was the new 86 and I40 Bridgefor pedestrians. We weren’t sure if it was in the 173 Town or County.174 175 Chuck Edwards: We received the same information. Our traffic folks are looking at that. An obvious thing was the 176 bridge was not designed for pedestrian walking. 177 178 Paul Guthrie:Are yougiving attention to the deteriorationof the old Kerr Scott Bridges? 179 180 Chuck Edwards: Absolutely. 181 182 Paul Guthrie: Some things tend to get overlooked. How are you approaching that issue?183 184 Chuck Edwards: One well-funded program we have is for the replacement of public bridges. 185 186 Paul Guthrie:I’ll give you one example, Old Greensboro Road and Phil’s Creek Bridge.There is more and more 187 heavy truck traffic using that road, 18 wheelers and every time they go down that hill they knock another hole in the 188 pavement. I assume you are doing regular inspection of these older bridges.189 190 Chuck Edwards: I wish I had brought my list, I will get back with Abigaile with more information.191 192 Jeff Charles: NCDOT worked on onebridge on Arthur Minnisnear Borland. There is another old bridge by that one 193 that was actually in worse shape. Do you know if that one is prioritized?194 195 Chuck Edwards: Yes. They are handled by a design contractor.196 197 Jeff Charles: That will hit the cyclingcommunity hard.198 199 Chuck Edwards: We do reach out to others on these projects to provide public information.200 201 Abigaile Pittman: In theBuckhorn Economic Development District, there is old bridge on the south perimeter. We 202 wouldn’t want it replaced as it is because the development in the areawill be industrial. When you look at these 203 issues with related land use changes involved,do you consider upgrading the bridge to accommodate industrial 204 traffic? 205 206 Chuck Edwards: Under this program, we are trying to get the best bang for the buck. At some point, if there is a 207 need to change that, that particular bridge may not fit this program but another program.208 209 Paul Guthrie: If there are no other topics, we can move on.210 211 Chuck Edwards: Abigaile is giving out information about resurfacing roads.212 213 Abigaile Pittman: Reviewed information.Elizabeth Gregory will tell us about some of the problems encountered with 214 emergency service vehicles on these 12-foot private road standards.215 216 Elizabeth Gregory: The main problem is the width because fire trucks are large and the ambulances also. People do 217 not realize the county has no hydrants so the fire truck cannot hook up to a hydrant. They have to shuttle water 218 which means trucks go to water sources and fill the truck that is on the scene of the fire. The main problem is the 219 trucks have to turn around, so if they can’t pass each other. Our standard when weget into a subdivision is 20 feet 220 but we try to work with DOTwith their standard of 18 feet. When you get down to 12 feetas in the Class B roadway,221 they will need to send a smaller fire truck which holds less water. It is an access problem. Fire trucks are very 222 expensive. If there are roads they cannot get down; they need to wait for another fire truck to get additional hose. 223 6 ReturntoAgenda