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D R A F T LanceHendrix: Are these fixed stops or a door-to-doorservice?110 111 Bret Martin: The concept is for it to be curb-to-curb. My recommendation will be curb-to-curb.112 113 Alex Castro: These figures are just operatingcost?114 115 Bret Martin: Yes. Capital is not factored into this budget because Triangle Transit is handling it differently. I have 116 been working through the MPO, TARPO and NCDOT to get the necessary capitalto make this happen.117 118 Jeff Charles: What percentageof the sales tax that is being collected annually in 2015 is going to this bus service for 119 Orange County versus our share of the $6 million dollars for the studies necessary for light rail?120 121 Bret Martin: Of the amount being made available OPT is getting 12%. How much of thatis the total that is coming 122 in? I don’t have the budget, but I would estimate 15%.123 124 Paul Guthrie: You can get a good idea onthe first chart by the number of transit miles. I would suggest you send 125 that information via email.126 127 Jeff Charles: I am going back to the population chart without the students;there are more people in Orange County128 than Chapel Hill.129 130 Bret Martin: Part of the revenue is not even sales tax but vehicle registration fees. There is more vehicle registration 131 in unincorporatedOrange County thanthere is in Chapel Hill. 132 133 Ted Triebel: Does the fare-free idea come from the top down?134 135 Jeff Charles: They are paying for it with the half-centsales tax.136 137 Bret Martin: Also, the scale of service being provided costs more to managethan it is worth to collect fares. It also 138 slows down service. The BOCC has leaned in that directionbecause we are serving transit-dependentpopulations, 139 whichare typically lower income householdwithout vehicles.140 141 Jeff Charles: Are theexpansions limited by the amount of access the county has to the percentage of the half-cent142 sales tax? Would yoube adding more if you were given more money?143 144 Bret Martin: On Attachment4, in the far right column a certain amount of money availableis noted. In time, more 145 money will be made available.146 147 Jeff Charles: Because you are collecting more revenue,or the percentage of the revenue that is going to buses is 148 increasing? 149 150 Bret Martin: The latter.151 152 Jeff Charles: So we have to pay the $6 million dollar share on the chance that we get federal funding and if we don’t153 becausethe density is not there to support a light rail system, that $30 million dollars goes down the drain.154 155 Paul Guthrie: One of the problems with your analysis is that all transit at some in time needs advanced planning. 156 Under the analysis you just gave, you would not do that until you have the money in your hand ready to build the 157 whole system. Your point is well taken with regard to whether it isan appropriate sharingof funds, but I don’t think it 158 is a good idea to say we will never sharefunds if we have to front-end the cost.159 160 Jeff Charles: I am not saying that. 161 162 Alex Castro: I agree with Jeff. The money has to be expendedin order to get to the approval stage but if you look at 163 what has happened to Raleigh and Washington, the likelihood of the LRT, which has failed in the past,is a lot less 164 5 ReturntoAgenda