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Durham Chapel Hill Carrboro MPO list 213 <br />214 <br />Bret Martin: Reviewed list of priority transportation projects. 215 <br />216 <br />Paul Guthrie: Does the STIP process allow you to articulate one of the reasons why there is such a problem 217 <br />right above 15/501 on I-40 westbound? Namely, they lose a lane, it drops to two lanes and it backs up for miles. 218 <br />I realize in this scoring game that doesn’t play out, but that road is not adequate to receive the traffic coming into 219 <br />it.220 <br />221 <br />Bret Martin: Safety is a component of the scoring but that is only along the segment of the road that is 222 <br />considered, not a segment remote from the project. 223 <br />224 <br />Heidi Perry: You said I-85’s widening was taken off the STIP because traffic had not increased the way NCDOT 225 <br />had predicted it would, so why do we expect the traffic on I-40 to increase? And NCDOT doesn’t think the 226 <br />building of the light rail will alleviate the traffic on I-40? 227 <br />228 <br />Bret Martin: Because traffic on I-40 has increased. On I-85, the traffic hasn’t really increased. Who uses I-40? 229 <br />It is Alamance County commuters, and on NC 54 it’s Alamance County commuters and Western Orange County 230 <br />going to Chapel Hill. They are using I-40 to go to RTP and south Durham, etc. Look at the major employment 231 <br />destinations and look at the origins and growing residential origins in Orange County, explains a lot of it. 232 <br />Downtown Durham and Duke are big employment hubs, and I-85 is the connection to that, but the traffic is not 233 <br />really growing, but on I-40 it is. I-40 is pretty much at capacity from NC 86 to 15/501. 234 <br />235 <br />Heidi Perry: When you add more lanes, don’t you bring more cars? 236 <br />237 <br />Bret Martin: That is something what happens. This is usually assessed with the cumulative impacts assessment 238 <br />of NEPA environmental impact assessment for a STIP project. Chapel Hill and Carrboro are not accepting the 239 <br />growth they were expected to accept but maybe should accept in order to bring people closer to their jobs. 240 <br />Alamance County’s growth is exploding, with a very strong commuting relationship with the Triangle. Some of 241 <br />this has been absorbed by Chatham County, and north of Pittsboro. 242 <br />243 <br />Heidi Perry: When I read this, I see that the main scoring thing is that you are improving the level of service, and 244 <br />the cost benefit looks good because you are improving the level of service, but you are really not, you’re just 245 <br />bringing more cars into the service and spreading it out more. It seems you are double scoring. 246 <br />247 <br />Bret Martin: But if it costs in congestion scores, it basically double counts congestion as a score. 248 <br />249 <br />Paul Guthrie: If a road becomes less usable, what happens? They go to another road. That puts pressure on 250 <br />mass transit, utility systems, and all kinds of things that come off this. We are next door to one of the fastest 251 <br />growing cities in America. We are at the crisis point of how we handle the future in transportation. 252 <br />253 <br />Amy Cole: I want to make sure I get my plug in for these projects. Numbers 13, 14 and 16. Numbers 13 and 16 254 <br />are tied together as projects to help out with the Safe Routes to School program and scoring seems significantly 255 <br />different. Item 14, this project was scoring much higher. I want to ensure that stays on the list so that at some 256 <br />point it happens. 257 <br />258 <br />Alex Castro: I agree. I don’t understand why 13, 14 and 16, particularly 13 and 14 which are in the Orange 259 <br />County Safe Routes Action Plan aren’t higher priority. They have higher scoring. 260 <br />261 <br />Bret Martin: This is not a scoring list, just a list that will be submitted to the BOCC. Because we are so limited 262 <br />on the projects we can submit for scoring, we might be in the position of needing to prioritize before we submit 263 <br />so that we can tell them which ones are more important to us locally. If the SPOT 4.0 committee determines that 264 <br />7