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APPROVED 5/4/16 6 McDonald’s are symbols and will be included in the computation of sign area. It’s a brand. So we would say that’s 267 part of the sign. 268 269 Paul Guthrie: Let me pose a similar thing. A couple of restaurants in Chapel Hill have commission on their walls 270 pieces of art that have a theme that makes you hungry and want to eat, outside, are they signs? 271 272 Michael Harvey: In my opinion it only becomes a sign if it says, “Eat at Spanky’s” whereas if you paint a mural that 273 has this wonderful scene of people eating but Spanky’s name isn’t in it, I don’t think it’s a sign. It’s a mural. It’s art. I 274 don’t think it ought to be regulated by this ordinance and I don’t think the County has any business trying to do that. 275 What I have told businesses in Orange County is, you want to paint the side of your building, paint it as a mural and 276 do some intricate design. Great, go for it. What you can’t do is exceed the sign allowance so if you have a 32 square 277 foot area where you say this that’s fine because that’s the sign limit, you just can’t turn your whole side of your 278 building into a billboard because that’s when I have to count the whole side of the building. 279 280 Lisa Stuckey: I do think within here there was one place that was very complicated. I think you lost track of which sub 281 a to sub b whatever and just want to encourage you to go through it very carefully. 282 283 Maxecine Mitchell: Have you spoke on community signs? 284 285 Michael Harvey: That’s actually going to be covered, if you’re doing a community/residential project like a subdivision 286 it’s going to be covered under the non-residential project development because while it is a residential subdivision we 287 count it as a non-residential project. So they get that allowance for a freestanding sign for the entry and then all the 288 signage for internal, like park this way or remember that road/street signs are exempt, construction entrance is going 289 to be exempt because it’s a directional sign. That’s required by the County. 290 291 Lisa Stuckey: But why is it called non-residential? 292 293 Michael Harvey: Truly, it’s either non-residential land uses or projects. A subdivision is a project. The individual 294 houses are residential development but the entity in and of itself is a project. 295 296 Tony Blake: What’s the criteria for turning the thing over to a community board or homeowners association? 297 298 Michael Harvey: Well for me, once the subdivision is built out, the roads are in, and the subdivision’s plated and here 299 it is, each individual lot is now going to be sold. It’s each individual lot that falls to residential development and those 300 limitations. The subdivision in and of itself exists as an entity. 301 302 Paul Guthrie: Michael, how do you handle communities that have homeowner associations and don’t have public 303 roads or signage? 304 305 Michael Harvey: Well, in this ordinance we’ve actually spelled out that if you’re erecting street signs in a private 306 subdivision those are exempt because they serve a public safety purpose. 307 308 309 310 311 AGENDA ITEM 8: COMMITTEE/ADVISORY BOARD REPORTS 312 A. Board of Adjustment 313 None 314 315 B. Orange County Transportation 316 317 Craig Benedict went over recent items from the OUTBoard and transportation division. 318 319