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APPROVED 4/6/16 in those counties were septic tanks that were failing regularly. And that was because 369 there was a limit on public services, beyond a certain imaginary boundary, and that’s 370 the kind of thing that I worry about in this county. That we’re too rigid on rural buffer 371 interpretation so that public services are not there. By one way or another housing is 372 going to go in there and following we will be in environmental problems. But no one 373 seems to want to focus on that long-term issue. 374 375 Craig Benedict: This is at the heart of it; about what the intent of it is and are we 376 reaching that intent or are we creating a potential issue out there… 377 378 Michael Harvey: Let me just also remind the Board that the rural buffer is a concept 379 along with the water/sewer agreement. The concept is our documents or plans that 380 involve multiple partners. And part of the problem is as you need multiple partners to 381 approve amendments. We ran into some very serious problems with one of these 382 partners when we were looking to adopt the agricultural support enterprises construct. 383 Yes, we have an exit clause. I don’t think that’s viable but, we have to work within the 384 kind of funds of having each participating entity approve a modification. That is 385 proven cumbersome. And this is the lot we have. 386 387 Craig Benedict: And I gave a presentation about the 2040 MTP growth model and 388 didn’t receive many comments. It’s not like they were surprised and quiet, they were 389 just, “What’s wrong with these numbers?” and I said that we can’t build that much. We 390 can’t build 16 Morinagas a year, that’s just not realistic. It said in order to build these 391 new houses or even new multi-family the amount of acreage that it would take the 392 Planning Board to review these major subdivisions, 10 of them. 393 394 Tony Blake: But what’s the carrying capacity of the land? If you took Orange County 395 and sub- divided it into the minimum lot size and put a septic system on every one of 396 them and a house on every one of them, would the county survive? And I don’t think it 397 would. It’s how much will the land allow you to build, without septic and without 398 services. 399 400 Michael Harvey: And also remember, Orange County, like every other county, has to 401 abide by some watershed management standards imposed by the state that 402 establishes density, surface and other limitations that there’s not a lot of flexibility on 403 either. So yes, we choose in certain instances to be more restrictive but, we also have 404 the state saying in this area because of what happens to your water you can only do 405 this much development. So that’s a further limiting factor that we have to live with. 406 407 Craig Benedict: So I’ll just go through some numbers here, some examples and what 408 happened previously with the 2040 MTP… We’re in the process now for the 2045 409 MTP, we know some of the glitches that occurred, we’re getting started earlier this 410 time, I saw it happening in the 2040 plan, I tried to move the aircraft carrier, I just 411 couldn’t get them to budge. They were just going down this path like they had with the 412 2035. The 2030 and the 2035, and I said, “Have you ever checked what this is?” and 413 they hadn’t. 50,000 employees averaging about 568 square foot per employee, I took 414