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APPROVED 4/6/16 <br /> <br />Tony Blake: The centralized employment location is kind of going away and there’s 323 <br />much more of a mobility attitude towards work and there’s a lot more work from 324 <br />home. I see a difference generationally. 325 <br /> 326 <br />Paul Guthrie: I commute up here to these meetings. I come up Old 86, and Old 86 327 <br />is a steady stream with few breaks at the hours coming up to this meeting, coming 328 <br />from North of Hillsborough, or from the interstates. And in the morning it’s the 329 <br />reverse. And 54 is the same wa y, and it will get more serious and less of a way to 330 <br />involve the jobs closer to home. 331 <br /> 332 <br />Craig Benedict: Another thing that I mentioned that the previous model did not do, 333 <br />when you get to the edge of the model there’s nothing left. So Alamance County was 334 <br />not actually in the model. 335 <br /> 336 <br />Tony Blake: There’s such a thing as a platoon employment as well, where they work 337 <br />12 or 24 hour shifts 3 days a week and then that allows them to live a lot further out. 338 <br />But this begs a question; the rural buffer around Chapel Hill seems to me to be too 339 <br />inflexible to allow to build some office space close enough for people to work and not 340 <br />have to commute. So I was wondering if there was a way for Chapel Hill to grow 341 <br />slightly and trade rural buffer like kind in certain areas for another area in the county 342 <br />further out. If you developed 30 acres up along Old 86 or New 86 and was in the rural 343 <br />buffer, could you take that same chunk of land somewhere and move it to the fringes 344 <br />of the rural buffer and just allow the rural buffer to breathe? 345 <br /> 346 <br />Craig Benedict: Well, the whole concept of the rural buffer is an urban growth 347 <br />boundary with a low density ring around it, so that there would be efficient use of the 348 <br />expansion of the public resources and infrastructure in a confined area instead of 349 <br />urban. This concept, the idea with these urban growth boundaries was to expand… 350 <br />What’s happening with a UGB that’s institutionalized is the affordable housing 351 <br />issues. The supply is so short, the demand’s still there, you get the cost of land and 352 <br />therefore the cost of housing goes up. We’re doing some analysis now that shows 353 <br />that if somebody pays $100,000 an acre, like one of the last subdivision that came 354 <br />through off of Whitfield, right outside the rural buffer, the building program is they’re 355 <br />going to charge 6 or 7 times that for the house. So you’re going to see a house up at 356 <br />$600,000-$700,000 or more because that’s the way the formula works. They’re not 357 <br />going to put $100,000 house on a… 358 <br /> 359 <br />Andrea Rohrbacher: Well, you could get a loan on it. The house value has to be 360 <br />30/70 for the bank to give you a loan on it. 361 <br /> 362 <br />Paul Guthrie: The rural buffer was created on the European model. The European 363 <br />model was to have a rural area designated of which you did not grow into. Well that 364 <br />assumes declining or stabilized populations. We don’t have that. So, that’s what 365 <br />makes it a difficult way to manage, and it causes some real problems. The one that.. 366 <br />every time we’ve got the development in here who wants to put septic tanks in and to 367 <br />work in some communities once upon a time where the biggest single health problem 368
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