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APPROVED 4/6/16 <br /> <br />a look at industrial, commercial and manufacturing and all these different things. That 415 <br />would be 28,000,000 square feet over 30 years, divide that by 30 years, that would 416 <br />mean we would need to be expecting to build 947,000 square feet each year. And 417 <br />this is counting the towns… And in the cities and in the county we have a lot of 418 <br />economic development so we would like to see a couple of these a year but there’s a 419 <br />lot of work just to get a 100,000-150,000 square foot building. 420 <br /> 421 <br />Paul Guthrie: It just occurs to me; If you really go into.. analysis and take a look at 422 <br />some of the current last 12 month sales analysis in terms of where retail sales are 423 <br />taking place and the movement to mail-order operations that can deliver in 24 and 36 424 <br />hours is putting some real stress on the shopping centers. And so, somewhere down 425 <br />the road I think we’re going to start re- calculating whether that is necessarily going to 426 <br />be able to support the kinds of things that we’re talking about. 427 <br /> 428 <br />Craig Benedict: I’ve seen in some smaller communities, Walmart Express; these 429 <br />little 20,000 square foot buildings. You order and pick it up. 430 <br /> 431 <br />Tony Blake: Let me ask you this. If I ordered something on Amazon, I pay state sales 432 <br />tax on that but I don’t pay any county sales tax on it, do I? 433 <br /> 434 <br />Craig Benedict: I’ll have to check on the distribution on that. There’s some new 435 <br />legislation where they’re trying to capture this point of purchase. The formula is 2008 436 <br />used to be population base, so things that were spent around the whole state were 437 <br />given to Orange County based on our population and there’s just one section that was 438 <br />Point of sale. So that’s why in the past Orange County didn’t mind as much. Well, that 439 <br />switched in 2008. We lost $6,000,000 per year, and now they’re working on some new 440 <br />sales tax formulas to try to capture this other information. I agree, I think the whole 441 <br />shopping program.. that you’re going to see this exponential change from in- store 442 <br />shopping to online. 443 444 445 <br />Michael Harvey: Remember that there are state bills being discussed that would either 446 <br />require Amazon or an out of state purveyor to track or provide the state.. so that sales 447 <br />tax can be charged. On your North Carolina taxes you can voluntarily estimate. 448 <br /> 449 <br />Craig Benedict: So another way of looking at it.. If instead of looking at the square 450 <br />footage you’d talk about how many employees you would get per year county wide, 451 <br />1,670 and.. 100 employees is about a $40,000,000 project for 100,000 square feet so 452 <br />you’d need 16 Moranaga’s to get 1,600 employees. This goes to the square foot 453 <br />depending on how much.. this is just building cost, not counting the equipment in there, 454 <br />you would be getting about $100,000,000 a year. And that would be great on our tax 455 <br />base but, that’s just not happening… A little bit about population growth, this is county 456 <br />wide, it was projected at 70,000 people. That means 2,350 a year, and that doesn't 457 <br />sound like too much to ask for in Orange County. But, let’s find out if all that single 458 <br />family, 65 percent of single family and you get about 2.8 people per unit. If you’re in an 459 <br />urban area you would see 273 acres, or if you’re in a rural area you would need 1,600 460
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