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Approved 7/1/2015 <br />8 <br />what a developer can and cannot do would be a better solution than potentially allowing more run off into 344 <br />the most protected areas of the county. 345 <br /> 346 <br />Tony Blake: I completely agree. The developer did not disclose what the ramifications are and it would 347 <br />have affected his lot prices. I tend to think to put the onus back on the developer to disclose this impervious 348 <br />surface ratio or what have you to the homeowner… 349 <br /> 350 <br />Michael Harvey: Respectfully you don’t know that what you are suggesting didn’t occur. This is a p roject 351 <br />platted almost 10 years ago and none of us, including staff, was involved in any discussion between the 352 <br />developer and potential property owners. 353 <br /> 354 <br />Tony Blake: I am focusing on the loop hole that this project took advantage of. If it is a matter of record, in 355 <br />the closing, that this is disclosed, problem solved in my mind. 356 <br /> 357 <br />Herman Staats: I agree. I would be in favor or proper and effective disclosure and communication but if, 358 <br />for these impervious surface exceptions, if they are engineering correctly, why would they be a determent 359 <br />to the environment. 360 <br /> 361 <br />Lisa Stuckey: I am concerned about what the state will call a BMP. I don’t have enormous confidence in 362 <br />our state’s ability to protect the environment. I haven’t heard of other instances with the rule s as they are 363 <br />currently and I don’t know why that should be a basis of changing the rules. 364 <br /> 365 <br />Paul Guthrie: Let me tell you why I stirred it up. If you read the teacher tenure reading ruling in the state’s 366 <br />courts, they are taking notice of issues of contract. It seems to be that someone that didn’t receive notice 367 <br />of limitation that they eventually wanted to change could not go into court against the whole rule as a taking 368 <br />without due process so I think we need to be very careful how the administration and the language that is 369 <br />used as setup this system on limits on property knowing that down the road, it may or may not be 370 <br />transferred in a way the next buyer understands what the limits on the property are. We need to be as 371 <br />clear as we can. Is our system providing due process? 372 <br /> 373 <br />Herman Staats: In this example of what we are not supposed to be focusing on but we are, the owner was 374 <br />the developer and he did so he knew what he was doing so it wasn’t something taken away from him, he is 375 <br />the one who did it, he was the owner. 376 <br /> 377 <br />Lisa Stuckey: What is being recommending is giving not a taking. 378 <br /> 379 <br />Paul Guthrie: In the specific case you are talking about is that offended buyer could go after both the 380 <br />owner and the legal authority that is running it. I was concerned how we can document that people can, 381 <br />with due diligence, what the property is limited too or not limited to. 382 <br /> 383 <br />Craig Benedict: The County has a recorded document that lists the development restrictions in that lot in 384 <br />writing. The plat has it and the declaration of restrictions has it as well. 385 <br /> 386 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: We have all these exceptions, etc. and for a normal person buying a house, they will not 387 <br />wrap their head around those details unless they have been bitten in the past. 388 <br /> 389 <br />Lisa Stuckey: How big a problem is it? 390 <br /> 391 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: It is unlikely this is the first person who has run into this. 392
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