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Approved 12/4/13 <br />7 <br /> Presenter: Perdita Holtz, Special Projects Coordinator 324 <br /> 325 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: The Fire Chiefs have their meeting tonight so I have to go there and this is just an information 326 <br />section to I will make a comment and turn it over to Lisa. I was involved with the Efland Small Area Plan 10 years 327 <br />ago but we had a subdivision that came through, the Tinnin Road Subdivision, and there was a conflict in that we 328 <br />have the comprehensive plan that encourages sidewalks and walkways but the comprehensive also encourages 329 <br />affordable and then you have the problem of who pays for the sidewalks and maintenance all of which increase the 330 <br />cost of the housing. In Tinnin Woods subdivision, it was dealt with as we will leave the room for the sidewalks and 331 <br />a path to the school where we will put mulch down and keep it clear and progress like that. This is a sticky one 332 <br />where you are trying to balance what we should do. 333 <br /> 334 <br />(Pete Hallenbeck left meeting) 335 <br /> 336 <br />Perdita Holtz: Reviewed information. 337 <br /> 338 <br />Tony Blake: Aren’t they in the right of way? 339 <br /> 340 <br />Perdita Holtz: They are but DOT won’t allow them to be in the right of way unless the County agrees to maintain 341 <br />them. 342 <br /> 343 <br />Tony Blake: So DOT forbids them to be in the right of way. 344 <br /> 345 <br />Paul Guthrie: It is not just on the east west road in Efland. There are streets and roads in Efland that DOT has 346 <br />never owned the right of way to. 347 <br /> 348 <br />Tony Blake: The walkability issues, the flow, you don’t want the sidewalk to change as you go along. This is a 349 <br />symptom of a bigger issue. It is sort of out of the control of the planning department. I would encourage a place 350 <br />where a transit node might be. 351 <br /> 352 <br />Paul Guthrie: Who is building the sewers? 353 <br /> 354 <br />Craig Benedict: Orange County. 355 <br /> 356 <br />Paul Guthrie: Easements allow sidewalks on top of them? 357 <br /> 358 <br />Craig Benedict: They are focused on water/sewer utilities. There is not as much of an encumbrance on the 359 <br />property when the utilities are underground. 360 <br /> 361 <br />Buddy Hartley: We were saying about the Tinnin Wood subdivision they should have sidewalks, by doing that they 362 <br />tabled everything? 363 <br /> 364 <br />Perdita Holtz: The overlay districts didn’t have anything to do with Tinnin Woods but you had discussed Tinnin 365 <br />Woods prior to the overlay districts. My recollection is that Johnny Randall wanted bike lanes, etc. and he really 366 <br />pushed it. 367 <br /> 368 <br />Buddy Hartley: There was no push of anything else. 369 <br /> 370 <br />Perdita Holtz: Johnny and Larry were particularly vocal about the issue. 371 <br /> 372 <br />Buddy Hartley: We voted on something? 373 <br /> 374 <br />Perdita Holtz: Yes. 375 <br /> 376 <br />Buddy Hartley: I would not have voted for this if I was here. I don’t remember that. 377