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Approved 6/5/13 <br />3 <br /> 108 <br />Maxecine Mitchell: So you’re saying that the cutting of trees is part of the impervious surface? 109 <br /> 110 <br />Michael Harvey: That would be part of land disturbance, as we discussed at the quarterly public hearing when 111 <br />Commissioner Dorosin asked the same question but the simple act of cutting a tree does not mean you are adding 112 <br />impervious surface area to your property. Once you built a house, you build a driveway (gravel), these actions 113 <br />represent the placement of impervious surface area on your property which for the majority of the County is limited 114 <br />based on your location within a Watershed Protection Overlay District. Say you have a wooded area and you clear 115 <br />that for your septic field, you clear additional area for view shed, to support the development of your house, that is 116 <br />land disturbance activities. What this ordinance amendment does is make reference to existing standards that if 117 <br />you exceed this level of land disturbance, you have to do the formal stormwater plan and we will require the site 118 <br />specific development plan with it. 119 <br /> 120 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: So what we’re looking at here is these disturbance limits that we’re reviewing on page 18 is that 121 <br />disturbance defined as both the impervious surface and ground that you tear up for some reason. 122 <br /> 123 <br />Herman Staats: So that I understand, cutting timber is not land disturbance if you don’t dig up the roots or bulldoze? 124 <br /> 125 <br />Michael Harvey: Cutting timber can be in certain circumstances, as defined by erosion control, can be land 126 <br />disturbance. There are situations where it is exempt because it is either a bona fide farm or if you’re not disturbing 127 <br />the ground cover. In theory yes, that is true but once you disturb the ground cover then it becomes land 128 <br />disturbance. 129 <br /> 130 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: Commissioner McKee was curious how this would impact someone who wanted to build a house 131 <br />for parents or children on their land and I’ve had some emails and worked through some examples. My take is that 132 <br />there is no simple way to sum up the impact of this and say as long as it’s only this size house, you’re good 133 <br />because the process requires all these different aspects. What does house disturbance footprint, which is going to 134 <br />be an impervious surface plus some area of around it, the driveway footprint, the septic tank, other areas. Also 135 <br />having gone through the process of having built a house in the county, there is a bunch of stuff going on, and my 136 <br />experience was that the sooner you engage the planning department with what you’re doing the better because 137 <br />they can walk you through the rules and this is all part of the process of designing what you’re doing. I think the 138 <br />best you can do to explain it to people is just make them aware of this process. 139 <br /> 140 <br />Herman Staats: I remember Commissioner McKee was asking about what someone could do if they got a piece of 141 <br />land, the recommendation that we’re making is based on the state law, is that right? 142 <br /> 143 <br />Michael Harvey: The recommendation you’re making is, instead of having the existing standard which says 144 <br />everybody in University Lake has to give you a professionally prepared site plan no matter what, we are basically 145 <br />linking the submission of that site plan to the stormwater land disturbance thresholds we adopted last year. That to 146 <br />us is a universal standard. No matter what we do this is here. It’s our position, and you have agreed with it, there’s 147 <br />no need to have multiple caveats in the code which is what we have now. 148 <br /> 149 <br />Tony Blake: The County always has the sufficient cause to ask for one (site plan). 150 <br /> 151 <br />Michael Harvey: Yes, we do what is called a site assessment now for every project typically before they even apply 152 <br />for a building permit. Site assessment is designed to identify all environmental factors and issues on any given 153 <br />parcel of property. Its main purpose is to identify for health, in advance of their applying for a septic permit, what 154 <br />areas can and cannot support a septic system. We use that process, that document that we produce using aerial 155 <br />photography to identify these types of issues. 156 <br /> 157 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: My experience has been that if you can get the idea across to people to go talk to the County first 158 <br />you can avoid a lot of headaches and they will help you understand these Ordinances and help you work through 159 <br />the numbers and look at the options. 160 <br /> 161
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