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Approved 12/7/16 3 Patrick Mallett: Same acreage. For the purposes of impact on the surrounding area, all the setbacks, all the minimum acreage 109 requirements are the same as a mobile home lot. 110 111 Tony Blake: How would the septic be figured? 112 113 Patrick Mallett: If you’re doing homes you would have to have a lot, you would have to have a septic system; you would have 114 to have a well, making permanent connections. 115 116 Tony Blake: But if you’re doing a mobile home park it’s different? And that would follow that same standard. 117 118 Patrick Mallett: Yeah. Because there’s not a lot so it’s a space… Conventional standards are from the driveway. And they’re 119 really designed so that people can come in and come out and emergency services can service and solid waste can service 120 them. One of the interesting things that is… A tiny home is the only way that you can get a single bedroom septic system. 121 122 Lisa Stuckey: Could those houses made out of container boxes? 123 124 Patrick Mallett: As long as you can build it to a standard it could be made out of recycled plastic. But it has to meet a code. 125 126 Lydia Wegman: Does it have to meet a building code of some kind? 127 128 Tony Blake: Well it has to meet a mobile home standard. 129 130 Patrick Mallett: The HUD standards for Mobile Homes, yeah. 131 132 Tony Blake: But the problem is with the tiny homes is that cost per square foot is so much greater than it is for a mobile home. 133 And so it’s hard to justify. 134 135 Lisa Stuckey: But they’re taking those containers and making them into houses. But it’s the same, are they mobile or not 136 mobile? 137 138 Patrick Mallett: Yeah, exactly. And what standard are the built to, and what type of utilities are the hooked up to (permanent or 139 not)? This is part 2 of those 4 text changes that are moving through. Michael’s got one of them that will be part 3. I see it as a 140 step in the right direction and at least we can give the people some answers and some guidance versus you can live in a 141 camp retreat center if you get it approved. So our goal is to get this one to the February Public Hearing. 142 143 Tony Blake: One more question. How does this fit with accessory use, or does it? 144 145 Patrick Mallett: It’ll be the same as it applies for others. There’s supervision in there for the sheds. So let’s say you had an RV 146 park, you had common open space, it’s owned by the landlord, and you have a caretaker. Theoretically you could get a shed 147 and for an extra $5 a month you get a shelf in the storage accessory structure. But the same rules would apply as accessory 148 shed structures. 149 150 Paul Guthrie: I’ve got a question. We have some in my house that watch all these tiny building shows that are on TV, so that’s 151 my exposure. But one of the things those show is that there’s a growing range of cost on things of a similar size. Has there 152 been any effort or any movement towards trying to get some more common definitions of these various alternatives? 153 154 Patrick Mallett: That’s the affordable housing part of this that Ashley is involved in. We’re getting into the mobile home park 155 and the RV park part of it. The sustainability, affordability part is a much bigger then, and then defining it. I think they’ve spent 156 a long time trying to define. 157 158 Paul Guthrie: There’s a broad range in those general exposures. 159 160 33