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<br />4 <br />“do you have trouble with rubber hose manufacturing?” and we’re going to have some little voting clickers and if everybody 163 <br />kind of gets a straw vote that it’s ok then we move to the next one, because there’s going to be a lot of questions. The 164 <br />Commissioners have, just when we went through the Hillsborough Economic Development Zone we asked them to weigh in in 165 <br />those districts and there were five separate districts in Hillsborough and they had questions. Not the majority, but some did 166 <br />have questions. And then the question was what does that exactly mean and the NAICS code does have definitions of those 167 <br />specific areas, so we threw that their way. So it is a long task but it is going to add to some specificity for really everybody 168 <br />concerned, instead of Craig or Michael saying, “Oh that seems like light manufacturing to us”. We’ll have a little more 169 <br />coverage if it’s listed or not. 170 <br /> 171 <br />Tony Blake: This reminds me of the old IBM thing in the park right when IBM moved into the park and everybody was 172 <br />complaining and they said, “this is a research park, we don’t allow manufacturing” and IBM attorney’s came back and said, 173 <br />“Well we don’t manufacture, we assemble”. So back to my water tower example, doesn’t the way they’re going to use that 174 <br />matter? 175 <br /> 176 <br />Michael Harvey: On one level, no. On another level, stand-alone water towers… are you concerned we’re not going to allow a 177 <br />utility to have a water tower? 178 <br /> 179 <br />Tony Blake: No, I’m just… When I look at it it’s not a use. It’s a thing that can be used in a myriad of different ways. 180 <br /> 181 <br />Michael Harvey: I can actually point to two water towers in Orange County that are stand alone uses that serve a utility 182 <br />function for the utility provider that has it there. I can also tell you water towers in certain volunteer fire departments to serve as 183 <br />prime pumps to drain and put into an engine as emergency water preserve. But in that instance I would call it a customary 184 <br />accessory use to the volunteer fire department versus a stand-alone use. It’s connected to the principal activity… And it’s a 185 <br />broad example. 186 <br /> 187 <br />Tony Blake: Again, I get back to what happens when this thing is listed in two different categories, like banks and financial 188 <br />institutions. 189 <br /> 190 <br />Craig Benedict: We’re going to get them all into one. 191 <br /> 192 <br />Tony Blake: Ok. So the intent is to remove them from the commercial use and put them in the financial? 193 <br /> 194 <br />Michael Harvey: Well I think as we have the footnote we have it listed as it currently is and we said we’re going to have to 195 <br />broaden and move it. Just like retail. 196 <br /> 197 <br />Tony Blake: I guess I’m over it. I was left with this… when I look down this column called “Use type” there are things in there 198 <br />that don’t strike me as uses so much as they are… 199 <br /> 200 <br />Michael Harvey: Well there are examples all throughout. One big example I’ll throw out as Tony’s looking for his example is 201 <br />somewhere in here, and we included it because it’s listed in the NAICS table, we’ve actually foot noted it and said this is just to 202 <br />kind of give you an illustration for discussion purposes, land subdivision. I’m on page 43. And the footnote we have, this is 203 <br />listed in NAICS, and our goal is to try to pull in as much of NAICS as possible to kind of show you what we’re dealing with. 204 <br />Land subdivision is not a land use. We included for reference and discussion purposes. This actually goes to Tony’s point. 205 <br />There’s stuff in here that we’re not going to be keeping but we have to have it in here because we’re trying to give you what 206 <br />the NAICS table says because at some point, I know if I were you, I’d be wondering, “Well I went and looked at the NAICS 207 <br />code and you skipped two uses; was that on purpose?”. 208 <br /> 209 <br />Tony Blake: So special events were another one that that’s something that is an activity somewhere else. There isn’t really a 210 <br />special event? 211 <br /> 212 <br />Michael Harvey: Well that’s a current land use. 213 <br /> 214 <br />Craig Benedict: The NAICS code almost went beyond just a use type. It listed an activity, like construction. I think it does give 215 <br />a very exhaustive list and we can weed through some of those things. 216 <br /> 11
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