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8 377 Tony Blake: So the septic counts in the open space but it’s not owned by the HOA? 378 379 Craig Benedict: There may be an HOA requirement for a common maintenance so that they all hire the same 380 person. 381 382 Tony Blake: Could be governed by the HOA... 383 384 Craig Benedict: ...Or if you had a community well. That could be governed by the HOA. But yet it doesn’t count as 385 open space, but it kind of looks like open space. 386 387 Patrick Mallett: Yeah, it’s a bonus in terms of what we get in terms of the open space. And it’s just like a road, the 388 other nice thing is you’re doing off site septic systems that would be a requirement and if you’re doing a subdivision 389 you have to build the road before you can record the lots and it has to be certified. They would have to build the 390 septic systems, the fence around it and then you come in and the homebuilder builds the house and the tank and 391 then you hook the system up. 392 393 Tony Blake: One more question. Is there any size… we’re starting to see some of these 5,000 square foot houses 394 out where we are and if they ever caught on fire we wouldn’t be able to put them out. 395 396 Patrick Mallett: It’s driven as it is today with any developments, it’s driven by the watershed. If you’re in University 397 Lake you have some pretty stringent impervious limitations. 398 399 Craig Benedict: There is not a requirement on the house size. It’s a matter of imperviousness and… They tried that 400 in Florida to dictate house sizes by zoning district and that could not be done. 401 402 Curtis Bane: Will the open space be taxed the same as the rest of the development? 403 404 Patrick Mallett: Theoretically open space would be held by an association or if they worked collectively to get a 405 conservation easement it would valued at a lesser rate than it would be if you owned 2 acres. If I have a 1-acre lot 406 and the other acre is in the open space. 407 408 Curtis Bane: If your open space is trees could you harvest those trees? 409 410 Patrick Mallett: Theoretically yes, as you could anywhere in Orange County by state law. 411 412 Tony Blake: The HOA could restrict that? 413 414 Patrick Mallett: That’s right. They could restrict that. 415 416 Craig Benedict: If it was a farm field and they want to forest that, they could do that, but if it’s a native forest and it 417 has some value, near a stream, we’d probably say, “You have to do selective clearing in there.” 418 419 Kim Piracci: So you’re here talking to us tonight to get permission to do this? Or to not? 420 421 Patrick Mallett: To get a recommendation. 422 423 Kim Piracci: Is there an example of this around here? 424 425 Craig Benedict: Maybe on a smaller scale, we can show you where we’ve had 33-40% open space and you can 426 see where we’ve preserved stream buffers and trees and things like that and the reason we’re bringing this forward 427 is this is suggesting to cluster down even more. We’ve been limited by 1-acre minimum in rural areas. The density 428 and the lot size are 2 different things. 429 430 12