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6 269 Kim Piracci: And do you still have to go in front of the commissions if you use a convention design option? 270 271 Patrick Mallett: Yeah. So if you wanted to do a conventional subdivision with 8 lots and you have no open space, 272 you didn’t meet the flexible design criteria then that would be a major subdivision. You’d have to go to the BOCC. 273 274 Kim Piracci: Ok. And so these flexible development types of subdivisions aren’t.. This is only when they’re using 275 their own septic, it’s not city water? 276 277 Patrick Mallett: Well, environmental health regulates the wells and you can do that in an individual well, a shared 278 well, a community well, different specials that they allow for. They basically stay to the state guidelines. 279 280 Kim Piracci: No, but I mean like if this development was going to use city water. 281 282 Patrick Mallet: Yeah, they could do that and that would be the easier way to deal with the water part of it. 283 284 Lisa Stuckey: How many subdivisions come to the County that have any form of city water? 285 286 Patrick Mallett: They’re rare but I would say 90% of the time it’s going to be a well system that may or may not be 287 provided that two owners are sharing together. That’s almost always a “families” type scenario or you’ve got a well 288 provider that’s meeting the states standard. 289 290 Tony Blake: The important thing is that this doesn’t allow you to bypass any of the health regulations, building 291 codes, or any of the other things that are associated with the subdivision. This is a yearly dividing of the lots in a 292 more logical versus physical way. 293 294 Kim Piracci: That does seem like it increases density so if you had 50 acres you could do 5 lots, right? 295 296 Patrick Mallett: You could do 5 10-acre lots. 297 298 Tony Blake: Or you could do more. 299 300 Kim Piracci: You could do 12 lots. 301 302 Patrick Mallett: Or you can do 5 and 5. You can do 2 minor subdivisions and 5 lots each. 303 304 Kim Piracci: So the same sets of neighbors you have now more houses on 50 acres. 305 306 Tony Blake: The minimum acreage for a house for Orange County 3 acres, isn’t it? 307 308 Patrick Mallett: .It’s dependent on the watershed. A lot of the watersheds allow 1 unit per acre, some 2. 309 310 Kim Piracci: The result will probably be more density. 311 312 Patrick Mallett: I’m going to give you a biased answer. 313 314 Kim Piracci: I mean, it’s going to feel less dense because you’re going to have all this open space but in fact there’ll 315 be more houses. 316 317 Patrick Mallett: That’s right. I see it as kicking the can to some extent. I’ve come to Orange County from a private 318 sector world and having dealt with developments of all shapes and sizes for 15 years. All over. In high-density 319 areas like Cary and rural areas of the County. If there’s a market for 10 houses then 10 houses are going to get 320 built in that area because they’re honing in on a school or an address or something that’s driving the price point in 321 that market. And it’s a matter of do you put all of those together or do you spread them out and kick the can 322 10