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idea of what it could be and have it as realistic as possible.. Now somebody may say, 507 “well if we project lower employment, and population we’ll never get any money to 508 widen the roads” they might say something like that but, it’s a balance and a 509 prioritization and you just have to… I think the biggest thing there was a presentation 510 on the Orange County bus.. plan, and there was a 4 year “let’s look at it again” clause. 511 What is the cost of the project, how are the revenues coming in, have there been any 512 changes with state funding, or federal funding, are revenues higher than what were 513 projected and the cost of the project changes…. Yes. The BRT bus was originally 514 planned 4 years ago to go to the UNC hospital, now it’s projected to go down to 515 Southern Village. The original cost of that was programmed at 24.5 million and the new 516 estimate is anywhere from 70-90 million. But admittedly, that’s 7,000,000 a mile versus 517 the light rail which is 88,000,000 a mile. Some new information that I heard last night is 518 the regional transportation alliance, which is a business related triangle firm that is 519 concerned about businesses and transportation, asked GO triangle if could .. a 520 dedicated, further railways be used for bus rapid transit. It’s got a dual use. I saw a 521 response today from GO triangle about why they don’t recommend that. But what 522 we’re doing with the North/South corridor, if they do a bus rapid transit route it will be a 523 separate lane from traffic but other buses can use it.. And emergency vehicles…If we 524 run a bus from Hillsborough down to the hospital we can jump on that lane and have a 525 dual use of it. So if you spend $7,000,000 a mile but you can put more people to use 526 that corridor you have such great efficiencies versus other scenarios where you have 527 light rail and they’re not suggesting to co- mingle it with a bus rapid transit bus. 528 Highway 54, even with light rail, will be over capacity. And so they’re going to have to 529 build another lane to put bus rapid transit to go out to either Southpoint, maybe out to 530 the airport, maybe up to 751 in the Woodcraft neighborhood. So a lot of things out 531 there. We’ll keep you informed on this and we’ll talk about those elements.. We’re 532 going to have the opportunity if we get these numbers fast enough to test and see 533 where it pushes new growth. 534 535 Paul Guthrie: The main thing you learn in transportation, and no community seems 536 to get their arms around, is the fact that there’s a lot of front end cost. And the 537 sooner you do the front end cost the better off you are in the long run. But, nobody’s 538 going to take that 20 or 30 or 40 year perspective. They always want to look at it in 539 the small… 540 541 Tony Blake: The point in Craig’s presentation is that we have built in constraints that 542 prevent this from happening. Our politics and our eyes and our stomach don’t match 543 here. We’re not capable of digesting these… 544 545 Paul Guthrie: If you ever need an example; the classic example is the railroad into New 546 York City. Where there’s a bridge over part of the wetlands in New Jersey that’s going to 547 cost about $3,000,000,000 to replace for the railroad traffic. And it’s the only way in and 548 the only way to go to the Northeast with all the freight traffic, except a long detour up to 549 central New York and across. And they have been fiddling on it for 40 years. The thing 550 is going to fall down on them one of these days. They patch it every year, and they 551 won’t bite the bullet. And that’s the classic. 552 16