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place a rule that makes it clear what a developer establishing what a developer can and cannot do would be a better 1 <br />solution than potentially allowing more run off into the most protected areas of the county. 2 <br /> 3 <br />Tony Blake: I completely agree. The developer did not disclose what the ramifications are and it would have affected 4 <br />his lot prices. I tend to think to put the onus back on the developer to disclose this impervious surface ratio or what have 5 <br />you to the homeowner… 6 <br /> 7 <br />Michael Harvey: Respectfully you don’t know that what you are suggesting didn’t occur. This is a project platted almost 8 <br />10 years ago and none of us, including staff, was involved in any discussion between the developer and potential 9 <br />property owners. 10 <br /> 11 <br />Tony Blake: I am focusing on the loop hole that this project took advantage of. If it is a matter of record, in the closing, 12 <br />that this is disclosed, problem solved in my mind. 13 <br /> 14 <br />Herman Staats: I agree. I would be in favor or proper and effective disclosure and communication but if, for these 15 <br />impervious surface exceptions, if they are engineering correctly, why would they be a determent to the environment. 16 <br /> 17 <br />Lisa Stuckey: I am concerned about what the state will call a BMP. I don’t have enormous confidence in our state’s 18 <br />ability to protect the environment. I haven’t heard of other instances with the rules as they are currently and I don’t 19 <br />know why that should be a basis of changing the rules. 20 <br /> 21 <br />Paul Guthrie: Let me tell you why I stirred it up. If you read the teacher tenure reading ruling in the state’s courts, they 22 <br />are taking notice of issues of contract. It seems to be that someone that didn’t receive notice of limitation that they 23 <br />eventually wanted to change could not go into court against the whole rule as a taking without due process so I think we 24 <br />need to be very careful how the administration and the language that is used as setup this system on limits on property 25 <br />knowing that down the road, it may or may not be transferred in a way the next buyer understands what the limits on 26 <br />the property are. We need to be as clear as we can. Is our system providing due process? 27 <br /> 28 <br />Herman Staats: In this example of what we are not supposed to be focusing on but we are, the owner was the 29 <br />developer and he did so he knew what he was doing so it wasn’t something taken away from him, he is the one who did 30 <br />it, he was the owner. 31 <br /> 32 <br />Lisa Stuckey: What is being recommending is giving not a taking. 33 <br /> 34 <br />Paul Guthrie: In the specific case you are talking about is that offended buyer could go after both the owner and the 35 <br />legal authority that is running it. I was concerned how we can document that people can, with due diligence, what the 36 <br />property is limited too or not limited to. 37 <br /> 38 <br />Craig Benedict: The County has a recorded document that lists the development restrictions in that lot in writing. The 39 <br />plat has it and the declaration of restrictions has it as well. 40 <br /> 41 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: We have all these exceptions, etc. and for a normal person buying a house, they will not wrap their 42 <br />head around those details unless they have been bitten in the past. 43 <br /> 44 <br />Lisa Stuckey: How big a problem is it? 45 <br /> 46 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: It is unlikely this is the first person who has run into this. 47 <br /> 48 <br />17
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