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Michael Harvey: Theoretically but that is technically up to the developer as there is no existing County regulation 1 <br />mandating same. From my standpoint what happened at Triple Crown was an abomination and did not represent the 2 <br />standard operating procedure we currently recognize within the Department in addressing this issue. Because the 3 <br />developer wanted to allow and allot additional impervious area to support a huge roadway and an overdesigned traffic 4 <br />circle then also give additional impervious to some of the smaller lots to make them more marketable for his specific 5 <br />development proposal we have the problem we now have. From my standpoint most of the issues in Triple Crown were 6 <br />created to address marketability and profit margin concerns of the developer. 7 <br /> 8 <br />Lisa Stuckey: Would that happen today? 9 <br /> 10 <br />Michael Harvey: No not from my standpoint. The staff is looking at the viability of requiring lots within a given 11 <br />subdivision to have a set percentage of impervious but that will be difficult in all cases. 12 <br /> 13 <br />Lisa Stuckey: Going forward what is the rule? 14 <br /> 15 <br />Michael Harvey: There is no mandatory requirement in the UDO. 16 <br /> 17 <br />Craig Benedict: This is a negotiation staff is having with a developer. That occurs at the developer review. 18 <br /> 19 <br />Lisa Stuckey: I’m so skeptical that after I put down my pervious driveway and let it become impervious I am very 20 <br />skeptical the county will dig up my swimming pool. 21 <br /> 22 <br />Craig Benedict: There is a balance. Some people have no restrictions of impervious in the county and some people 23 <br />have 6% which is very low. Should people have the right to have normal accessory structures on their property for 24 <br />personal enjoyment if there is no degradation to a standard that is accepted by the state? In this case, we are allowing 25 <br />some leeway and allowing them to enjoy their land without degradation to some very strict requirements we had. 26 <br /> 27 <br />Pete Hallenbeck: You are saying as a member of the planning board that you support the concept of the performance 28 <br />bond. 29 <br /> 30 <br />Lisa Stuckey: Yes I am. Is the state developing other BMPs besides the impervious surface? 31 <br /> 32 <br />Michael Harvey: One of the reasons we changed the language to the proposed ordinance is to make it an infiltration 33 <br />based storm water feature was an attempt to allow so something other than just permeable concrete. Having said that 34 <br />the proposed feature required to take advantage of this allowance has to be a infiltration based stormwater feature. 35 <br />The simple act of digging of a pond does not create a proper feature in my mind as all the pond does is capture runoff. 36 <br />It is not necessarily treated before it is introduced into either a second conveyance system or it absorbs into the ground. 37 <br />Requiring an engineered designed stormwater feature that is based on an infiltration model, our hope is that the state 38 <br />would recognize the system as being reasonable as it captures and allows the water to treated prior to its infiltration. 39 <br />The state is revising the entire BMP manual but it is based on the notion that an engineer can design an innovate 40 <br />infiltration based system that as long as it complies with state minimum standards it can still qualify for additional 41 <br />allotment of impervious. I didn’t want to allow any storm water feature which I don’t think is supported by the state’s 42 <br />BMP manual. 43 <br /> 44 <br />Lydia Wegman: It seems to me the county needs to protect its most resources and the problem is the developer who 45 <br />mistreated the people who were buying the lot from the standpoint of impervious surface allotment and that we are 46 <br />revising a rule that has been in place for some time. I don’t see that as a good reason to revise this rule which has 47 <br />worked very effectively in the county. It seems if the problem is with the developer then revising the UDO to put in 48 <br />16
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