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D R A F T 4 impractical to totally enforce. After reading this I read the intergovernmental sections which suggests to me that parts 162 if not all of this may be actually enforced and moderated by jurisdictions other than the County of Orange because of 163 the enforcing standards where there is contract in areas near cities, town, etc. I would like a better explanation that if 164 this is adopted who will enforce it. I think that is a fair question for the Commissioners. Finally, for a minor permit to 165 require a $90 upfront one-shot cost is pushing the creditability of the staff because the minor permit involves the 166 description of two pieces of paper that will clearly show it is or is not eligible for a minor permit. 167 168 Herman Staats: I like the comment made that the goal is try to balance use of a home as a residence versus use of 169 a home as a business. I think that is something we need to keep in mind with all the discussions we have here. We 170 need to find the balance that allows for some small business while also allowing people who have their homes 171 nearby to enjoy them. I would like to hear more discussion about the proposed changes and concerns about 172 setbacks and things and see the recommendations. 173 174 James Lea: No comment. 175 176 Andrea Rohrbacher: I don’t know how this will be enforced if someone were new to the area and decided they want 177 to start a home business, I think they would go ahead and set up an office and start doing what they do through the 178 home with a small office space and I don’t think that would have an impact as we try to address this ordinance but it 179 seems we have put a lot of work into this and there are a lot of regulations that have been thought but will it 180 accomplish what we want it to do with respect to being able to avoid the folks that were not aware and found out they 181 were in violation. 182 183 Pete Hallenbeck: So, some of your concern is for someone who had a smaller operation, one office with just 184 themselves, would they get into a situation where they were in violation and were not aware of it and how would that 185 enforcement occur and what would happen to them. Ashley, if you have one person with no employees it wouldn’t 186 be... 187 188 Ashley Moncado: It would most likely be waived, and you would not have to go through the permitting process. 189 190 Pete Hallenbeck: It would not be until you had employees showing up for work that things would kick in. 191 192 Ashley Moncado: Visitors, signage, and then these standards would be in effect. 193 194 Andrea Rohrbacher: What if you had no employees and offered craft classes and had twelve cars in front. 195 196 Ashley Moncado: Then you would have to go through this process. 197 198 Andrea Rohrbacher: How would that person know that? 199 200 Ashley Moncado: Unfortunately, we would have a difficult time reaching them. We are going to provide outreach 201 and have education to let residences know of these changes. But in the situation you described we wouldn’t know 202 unless a complaint was received or they contacted our office. 203 204 Pete Hallenbeck: Someone involved in a home business and unaware they were in violation, it will be complaint 205 driven before someone finds out. At that point, the planning staff doesn’t show up to put that person in jail but inform 206 them of the process. The goal in the planning office is that if someone complained, the person applied for the permit 207 and things would be great. The only problem would be if someone found out they were in violation and would not 208 apply for the permit then it goes to another level. 209 210 Ashley Moncado: There is no fine. 211 212 Michael Harvey: The typical proceeding is educational first; we work together to correct it. If you choose not to 213 comply, then we would do an enforcement action which states you comply or else, as with any violation with the 214 14