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D R A F T 3 109 Phil Cook: I am with Earth Centric Engineering and we are the engineers for the project. There are two separate 110 outfalls for this roadway. (Pointed out the outfalls). There is actually an existing natural swale that comes on the 111 back which allows us to let that have a level spreader respect. 112 113 Johnny Randall: The other issue has to do with critters moving around (i.e. salamanders and box turtles). Given 114 that this development on two sides had significant natural heritage areas and there is a creek. I apologize this 115 didn’t come to my attention earlier but I want it on the record. 116 117 Larry Wright: This is just for information, I was at a dinner meeting with a commissioner from another county and 118 she thought the DOT requirements for a cul-de-sac was 50 feet. Can you clarify that? 119 120 Michael Harvey: There is a difference between radius and the pavement portion. The minimum 37 feet of paved 121 area will be the minimum amount of paved area required for the project although the radius of the cul-de-sac will be 122 a lot wider to incorporate all elements in the right-of-way. The right-of-way for the cul-de-sac will have a radius of 123 50 feet. If there are no other questions, let’s move on to utilities. 124 125 Alan Campbell: On the septic areas, it looked slightly more involved than a conventional system. Are they 126 basically conventional with some tweaks with pretty much the same cost? 127 128 Phil Cook: Not the same cost. They are a little more expensive. Some of the lots have conventional systems. 129 There are two systems that use one of the line reduction methods. 130 131 Johnny Randall: About the septic drain field areas, they are pushed to the limit of the lots where the 50 foot buffer 132 zone, could they be pulled closer to the homes? One issue that would make the Triangle Land Conservancy more 133 interested in this development would be to offer them the option of holding conservation easements on some of 134 those lands adjacent to both Duke Forest and their own property. 135 136 Michael Harvey: The areas with the plats have been identified as perkable soils. It is certainly possible to have 137 them moved. We require they be denoted on the plat to ensure there is perkable soil in each lot. With respect to 138 the open space ownership issue Mr. Heffner (the applicant), at the November 7, 2012 Planning Board meeting, the 139 question came up of ownership of open space, where discussions on conservations easements were made. 140 Essentially, it was his determination that the local residents would be more readily available to address issues in 141 respect to management of the open space areas. 142 143 Tom Heffner: My experience has been that it is preferable to have homeowner’s association; there has to be 144 ownership of the open space so the HOA would own a fee simple interest in that space. 145 146 Michael Harvey: What will ultimately determine the final location of the septic field is the size of the house, the 147 number of bedrooms and the location of the well. 148 149 Johnny Randall: Given this site is forested with mature hardwood forest, if I, for instance, …. If the septic drain field 150 was pulled closer, there would be much greater sense of being in the forest . 151 152 Tom Heffner: Drain fields are not cleared. 153 154 Michael Harvey: Continued reviewing abstract. 155 156 Motion made by Larry Wright to approve the preliminary plat as submitted. Buddy Hartley seconded. 157 Vote: 9:1 (Randall opposed) passed. 158 159 160 Agenda Item 8: UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE (UDO) TEXT AMENDMENT – To make a recommendation 161 to the BOCC on government-initiated amendments to the text of the UDO to modify existing 162 11