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Approved 11/14/2011 <br /> <br />OC Board of Adjustment – 6/13/2011 Page 37 of 44 <br /> <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 <br />30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 <br />38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 <br />42 <br />43 <br />44 <br />45 <br />46 <br />47 <br />48 <br />49 <br />50 <br />51 <br />52 <br />53 <br />54 <br />Mark Micol: I think Mr. Wright was saying we should separate it out and say you can only have five socials and …. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: No. I am not there yet. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: I don’t think limiting that would be what we really want but by limiting the loud amplified music outdoor events, <br />you have at least ensured that the loud event is limited. All of those are under the purview of the noise ordinance of Orange <br />County. We are saying that in addition, on top of that, you can only have six amplified music events. Those events would still <br />be subject to the noise ordinance. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: I think it should be amplified sound, not just amplified music. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: One condition, as a proposal, is that one of the conditions we would enact would be that there would be no more <br />than six events with amplified sounds conducted at the agricultural center. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: If they have a cow show, that is amplified sound. They could show Holsteins. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: That is not the purpose of the agricultural center. Livestock shows and such… <br /> <br />Larry Wright: They could bring them by. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: It would be outside the purview of the SUP. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: I don’t think so. If you have a bunch of school kids there and you’re bringing in Holsteins and telling them this is <br />bossy and somebody else... that is educational and amplified sound. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: My personal opinion is I don’t think that would be an issue going forward. Is there consensus, music, sound? <br /> <br />Mark Micol: I thought music or amplified events were solid. <br /> <br />David Blankfard: What if their teacher is teaching square dancing? <br /> <br />Mark Micol: We are not talking about a little speaker or microphone, we are talking about a marching band or wind ensemble. <br />That is what will get over 50 decibels. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: Can we go through the noise ordinance again? <br /> <br />Tom Brown: The maximum decibel levels during the following hours of the day; Sunday through Thursday 8:00 AM through <br />9:00 PM, Friday and Saturday from 8:00 AM to 11:00 PM is 60 db. For the maximum decibels in the evening; Sunday through <br />Thursday 9:00 PM through 8:00 AM in the morning, Sunday through Thursday, Friday and Saturday from 11:00 PM until 8:00 <br />AM is 50 db. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: What is 50 db? A motorcycle? <br /> <br />Tom Brown: That would not be a question for us. 50 db is not a loud noise at all. We have had previous testimony with <br />kennels where the barking dogs at the perimeter in the last kennel case would not have reached the edge of the property and <br />be over 60 db. That is what it states and what applies to everyone. <br /> <br />James Carter: Are we debating the number or noise issue? Or both. <br /> <br />Mark Micol: I am trying to take the burden off the property owners to police. Not the Nutters but anyone coming after the <br />Nutters. I think in good faith, the business they are running is not what we are talking about. We are talking about what the <br />SUP is giving the owners of the property the right to do. I want to take the burden off the owners to have to call the Sheriff’s <br />department. The only way we can do that is limit the number of events because if we take the testimony that has been given <br />where they call the Sheriff’s department, we don’t have a record they tested anything.