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Approved 11/14/2011 <br /> <br />OC Board of Adjustment – 6/13/2011 Page 36 of 44 <br /> <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 <br />30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 <br />38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 <br />42 <br />43 <br />44 <br />45 <br />46 <br />47 <br />48 <br />49 <br />50 <br />51 <br />52 <br />53 <br />54 <br /> <br />Tom Brown: The specific standards have been approved. Next, we go to the general findings. Before we get into the general <br />findings, I think what is going to impact us with facts to uphold these findings are the conditions. We would have to see what <br />kind of conditions we would add with staff conditions on the back. We feel that would allow us, if you wish, to vote in favor of <br />the general conditions. Those conditions that we feel would be appropriate. Are there discussions or conditions that you think <br />we need to deal with right now. I think we had recommendations of no more than six outdoor events with amplified music or <br />sound not to include normal educational or agricultural activities. <br /> <br />Mark Micol: If we say limit the number of amplified outdoor events to six, that should cover it… whether it is educational or <br />not. If we just say outdoor music and/or amplified events. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: Music could be anything… <br /> <br />Tom Brown: We talked about a high school band. That would come under the not amplified but it would still come under the <br />purview of the Orange County noise ordinance no matter what type of music. What we would be saying in that case, we are <br />only concerned about amplified music or sound at a specific event and limiting those. They are always subject to the noise <br />ordinance. <br /> <br />James Carter: I have a problem with limiting educational events. You are going to set a limit on the amount of educational <br />events? <br /> <br />Tom Brown: No. <br /> <br />David Blankfard: What we are saying is that we are going to limit the number of outdoor events whether they are educational <br />or not. <br /> <br />Mark Micol: The whole reason we are putting this in is to help the neighborhood limit the number of loud, musical or amplified <br />events whatever it is. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: All the educational or agricultural events should not be a factor. We are only talking about limiting the loud noise <br />generation outside the facility. <br /> <br />Mark Micol: If they are running a tractor around with kids on it. That is a farm issue. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: That is what we need to make sure we do not include that. <br /> <br />Mark Micol: That is why I think we should keep it simple. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: An amplified event of music would not include tractors, educational or farm component. That is not amplified <br />anyway. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: Procedural question. Does this pertain to conditions on page 164? <br /> <br />Tom Brown: Page 164 would assist you in being able to vote. In order words if you want the location to be in harmony with <br />the area but in order to keep in harmony with the area, limit the loud noise that is generated so that is why we are discussing <br />this now before the general standards. <br /> <br />Larry Wright: I think in terms of what we were advised by Mr. Harvey, I think we really need to separate the social from the <br />educational. <br /> <br />Mark Micol: Who is to decide whether it is educational or social? <br /> <br />Tom Brown: We are only talking about amplified music. <br />