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Approved 11/14/2011 OC Board of Adjustment – 6/13/2011 Page 24 of 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 Mike Parker: We have no problem with redirecting that to focus the sound that will turn away from the western property boundary to the east. Tom Brown: Do you feel you need amplified music or would you be willing to say that you would not provide a venue for outdoor amplified music? Mike Parker: To me it sounds like if we have a noise ordinance we have a level we cannot exceed whether it is amplified or straight music or bongo drums. Drums are not amplified and most of the time drums are the loudest instrument in a band. I play with a band at church and we have a very difficult time getting our level below that of the drums so we can match the drums and not blow everybody out of the room. Again, amplified doesn’t necessarily solve their concerns is what I am trying to say. Tom Brown: So you would be willing to go along with a constraint to direct the music away from all residences on the western side. Mike Parker: Absolutely. That would be our intent anyway. We would like to get along with others. Tom Brown: Any other questions from the board members. Larry Wright: If you have a high school band, that is generally louder and probably has good quality music as you might have as a professional band but you still want to…I mean this is still an educational place and a high school band can be pretty noisy and you want to keep them from performing. It is a complex situation. Tom Brown: As you can see we have competing interests here and in trying to make the best decision, you are going to have to be sensitive to issues and do whatever you can to mitigate those noise issues. The residences will need to understand and at least be assured they are not going to be abused by living in the outdoors and having music directed towards their back yards and porches. We do need to try to come together about that and not have us as the Board of Adjustment try to abrogate the laws or the ordinances in place or try to create something new because that is not something we should be doing. Mike Parker: I agree and if you will look at the list, you will see there have been no amplified events in the last year. Larry Wright: My concern is that we are talking in good faith now, but this permit, actually this application, if approved, and we are discussing directing the music away from the western boundary. In 50 years, when a new owner comes in, how is this going to be handled? David Blankfard: You could put it as a stipulation that you have to face all amplified music towards the east. Mark Micol: Whatever music is played on that stage is going to affect these people. I think limiting the number of outdoor musical events would be a better route than talking about decibels. Mike Parker: We do not have a stage. Mark Micol: It is irrelevant whether or not you have a stage. We understand that in good faith you may do one thing but their concern that five or ten years from now someone else may do something different. Our decision needs to be based on that, what could happen in the future. Tom Brown: We also have precedent… because we have other camp retreat centers and if we started to try to limit the number of events that opens up a whole….. Larry Wright: Can we ask the attorney about limiting the number? What is your opinion on that? Sahana Ayer: I can’t advise you about what conditions you can actually impose but I can generally say that you could