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Approved 11/14/2011 <br /> <br />OC Board of Adjustment – 6/13/2011 Page 11 of 44 <br /> <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 <br />30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 <br />38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 <br />42 <br />43 <br />44 <br />45 <br />46 <br />47 <br />48 <br />49 <br />50 <br />51 <br />52 <br />53 <br />54 <br />Lue Simopoulos: I have not been sworn in. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: Swore in. <br /> <br />Lue Simopoulos: This is my house, I am number two. This is the ag center here. I am closer than anybody here. I am <br />hundreds of yards closer that most of the people who have spoken on behalf of Mr. Nutter. I do want to say that Mr. and Mrs. <br />Nutter, when they called us in to do the ag center, I was very supportive. Being right next door, I thought it was a great idea, <br />my daughter and I walk over to see the animals almost daily. We love the ag center and the farm. What we were led to <br />understand was that it was going to be an educational program and we were absolutely for it and supported it all the way. Mr. <br />Nutter was so kind, when the first winter came and all the leaves fell I woke up and I looked out and there was this big red <br />barn that I had not seen before because when the trees are up I couldn’t see it and suddenly it was very, very close. They <br />were responsive to me immediately to put a buffer in. So I have been pleased with their response. The place in where I am <br />joining my neighbors is in this issue of changing this use to where there could be parties so often. We agreed with the idea of <br />having occasional parties, we have occasional parties. They can have occasional parties too. Changing the use, as my <br />neighbors have said, that all of the sudden we may have parties all weekend, every weekend and that is not why we live here <br />and why we moved next to this farm so that is the main thing I wanted to say. I do want to say and I wanted everybody to <br />understand that I am the one who is most impacted, I am right next door so it is hard to listen to people talk about how we <br />should be grateful and all these other things when they live so much farther away. I hear everything that goes on next door. <br />When the leaves are down, I see everything. When the leaves are up, I just hear it and that has all been fine as long as it is <br />not excessive and that is where I agree with my neighbors. That is all we have asked for contrary from what my further away <br />neighbors seem to believe that we have been the horrible neighbors out to get the Nutters. It is not. <br /> <br />Mary Messinger: I am a part of Maple View I. We bought our land in 1994. I have been sworn in. We moved into our house <br />in 1996. I am in agreement with my neighbors of Maple View I in that I love the fact that the Nutters have been so good in our <br />community and love the idea of the ag center and it goes far beyond our community. As far as Raleigh, Greensboro and even <br />farther than that. My concern is the same here with my neighbors in Maple View 1, that I can hear the noise from my house. I <br />don’t know if my property is even on there. I live here and it is a good distance away. Through the pond, up the hill, over the <br />woods and I can hear it. I actually thought it was my neighbor from Maple View 1 who has two teenage boys, dad was gone, <br />they had a big party. The next day, and they had a big party. I could hear them. They were taking advantage of dad being <br />gone. Then I found out when there was another event at the ag center and I put two and two together that it was actually the <br />parties going on here that I could hear the music from my house. I don’t disagree with fundraisers and special events and <br />occasional parties. We all have those too it is just the weekend after weekend and the excessive noise. <br /> <br />Nancy Oglesby: I apologize I wasn’t here but the door was locked upstairs so I went up to let them in. <br /> <br />Tom Brown: What is your name please? <br /> <br />Nancy Oglesby: Sworn in. I am a member of Maple View 2 and I live over here and like everybody here, we have enjoyed <br />being near Maple View and we have had very good experiences with the Nutters at times and appreciate the goodness of <br />their hearts and how much they have done for the community and I agree with all the legalese that was said from my <br />neighborhood but at this point, in addition to giving them my support, I want to speak personally. I understand that they <br />haven’t had tons of parties so far and they seem to think we are complaining too much about what is being done but I think we <br />need to focus on the fact that this hearing is to decide whether or not parties can be unlimited. That is my issue. We have <br />several times tried to negotiate with them about the number of parties and we have offered and said we wouldn’t put any <br />opposition to a few parties and could we come to an agreement and go to the dispute settlement center. Let’s go to <br />arbitration. Let’s compromise and come up with a number of parties we can both live with and then put that in the SUP. So if <br />they really want to only have a couple of events outside every year, why isn’t that in the SUP or the application? I would not <br />have even come if the application I had gotten in the mail said the ag center wants to have two outdoor parties a year. I would <br />have said hallelujah I am not going to go because this is very stressful to have to come speak like this. That is not what it is; it <br />is to have it every night. I have talked to friends who live near party barns and it is a really miserable experience. There are <br />times they don’t get to sleep and they don’t get notified. They don’t know when it is going to happen and it is not fine. That is <br />what I don’t want. I don’t understand if there is all these people talking about being neighborly and compromising, then how <br />come when we offered to compromise, nobody wanted to compromise. How come this application does not represent a <br />compromise? We are here, we want to compromise, please compromise with us. We are not rigid or saying we don’t want
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