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Approved 6/13/2011 <br />OC Board of Adjustment – 3/14/11 Page 29 of 59 <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 <br />30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 <br />38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 <br />42 <br />43 <br />believe if the road is constructed, all this vegetation you see on the right hand side will disappear and that will <br />really increase our view into the property so I think an opportunity to plant some vegetation here would be <br />reasonable. Here are some examples of fencing and sound barriers. In my discussion with Mr. Stewart, I was <br />trying to see if he would agree that this type of fencing may do a better job of addressing noise. Vinyl slats in a <br />chain link fence, I understand and I appreciate how it blocks the dog’s views and I think that is a great way to go <br />but I think there may be opportunities for more fencing and sound barriers. My recommendation is that the board <br />continue the hearing and request that the applicant respond to questions and concerns including investigating an <br />alternate access, meet with neighbors to discuss issues and possible solutions and provide permits from Orange <br />County for solid waste, the acoustical analysis report, I think that has been presented. I think there are many <br />unanswered concerns before the board tonight. I think it would be reasonable and appropriate for the board to <br />continue the meeting to a future date in order for these issues to be addressed. I know the applicant did postpone <br />in order to work a little more on the access and resolving that. In light of that, this facility, once it is constructed <br />will be there for many years, I think a delay at this point is reasonable to answer these questions. Recognizing <br />that the board may determine otherwise to act and approve this request tonight, I am prepared to discuss a list of <br />additional conditions with respect to traffic, roadways, construction, noise, landscaping and wastewater. I know <br />you will consider my concerns and act accordingly. Thank you very much for your time and I am available to <br />answer any of your questions. <br />James Carter: This is a general question. I keep hearing about traffic. With his small kennel, would it require that <br />much traffic? I keep hearing traffic. Help me understand that. <br />Gene Poveromo: It depends. I do have something I would like to enter into the record from a traffic engineer and <br />it talks about traffic and if I may I will read it. <br />Nick Herman: I am not trying to obstruct but I object. <br />Gene Poveromo: I will not enter that information out of respect for your objection. Unless the board objects I am <br />going to enter this information into the record and unless the board objects, I would like to talk to you about traffic <br />as a professional planner, traffic impacts and I am speaking as a planner and as possibilities, so imagine, if you <br />will, I think what we heard was that this facility could also have grooming other than the kennel. I think I <br />understood it would be grooming that could occur on a daily basis so if I wanted to, without having a dog boarded <br />at the facility. I think I heard someone could come to the site and groom their dog so there is no limit to the <br />number of cars except for the number of groomers they may have on the site. There is nothing that, it’s my <br />understanding that would prevent this from being a doggie daycare so there is nothing that would prohibit their <br />dogs first thing in the morning and then picking them up later in the evening. We are talking about 30 kennels and <br />dog runs so it has a maximum capacity of 30 so you could have a situation where 15 vehicles, half of the kennel, <br />arrive in the morning that is 15 trips, 15 vehicles leave later that day, that is 30 trips or after they drop their dog off. <br />You could have another 15 vehicles arriving in the evening, that is 45 trips and you could have 15 more trips <br />leaving when they pick up their dogs so there is a potential for having traffic. <br />James Carter: But this is based on your assumption, correct? <br />Gene Poveromo: It is based on looking at the potential of having occupancy for 30 dogs. <br />James Carter: You still haven’t answered my question. In other words, you said based on potential, I am asking <br />this is your assumption? You assume things are going to happen. My God a constant flow of traffic, is this what <br />your assumption is? <br />Gene Poveromo: It is a concern I have and I don’t think there is enough information tonight to give us a good <br />sense of the traffic impact so it is a concern. <br />James Carter: Thank you.