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APPROVED 5/10/2010 OC Board of Adjustment – 3/8/2010 Page 68 of 86 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 Tom Tolley: We could. Mark Micol: Did you look at that? Tom Tolley: No I did not. Rob Maitland: Mr. Tolley’s sole role was analyzing Vic’s …. Tom Tolley: I just did a review of the appraisal. Although I can tell you from another study that I was ask to do years ago, I was actually approached by the people who, Paws and Claws, to do the same type of study for them and they were trying to get their Special Use Permit. I told them the exact same thing that I told Mr. Maitland is that chances of me finding those data points are slim, very slim. Do you want to pay me $3,500.00 to find out? And the answer was no. My position is this is no good and no one on the board and no one in this room can say positive impact, negative impact, no impact based on available data. Rob Maitland: Just to clarify, we did agree to pay and you said we couldn’t. Jeffrey Schmitt: Other questions by the board? David Blankfard: Is there a standard for methodology? Tom Tolley: No. Mr. Knight is correct on that and basically it is not rocket science, it is basically a logic tree whether you doing an appraisal on a house or an appraisal on a shopping center or an impact analysis. What you have to decide is how I can logically draw conclusions. That is what it comes down to is to be able to logically follow a path to a conclusion and that is really the only thing methodology is talking about as far as consulting goes. When you go into appraising houses, that was mentioned earlier where you have certain things you have to follow as you go through the process. Again, they don’t address things like everybody thinks you have to have three sales to do an appraisal on a house. It doesn’t say that. Basically it says that you have to go out and find data, it is the bank that says you have to have at least three so once again, there has to be logic involved but there is nobody sitting at the appraisal board saying this it the way you have to do it so that is typically why appraisers do this. They would look at Vic’s work and say he found the data he could, the best he could so from an appraiser’s standpoint, there is nothing he did wrong. I just believe that the faultiness lies in you don’t just keep hunting until you find it. Jeffrey Schmitt: Thank you sir. Travis Blake: I am sworn in, my name is Travis Blake, I live at 9668 Highway 15-501 Chapel Hill. I am an environmental consultant and I have got degrees, if you want to hear them. I also have two golden retrievers that go with me everywhere so if I fall down, I push up on. Training is a good example. Rob Maitland: Mr. Blake reads lips in case he doesn’t respond to your question. Travis Blake: You want me to give the degrees? Rob Maitland: Yes. Travis Blake: BA in Biology Botany, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. BSPH, School of Public Health Environmental Management Protection. Master’s in Environmental Science and Engineering at the School of Public Health in Chapel Hill. Post Graduate work at Duke University and N.C. State University Engineering and Environment. Rob Maitland: I like everything but the N.C. State part. You have had a chance to work with situations like this, dog kennels? Travis Blake: I do environmental consulting for developers, vet owners, kennel owners, municipalities in towns who need help writing their zoning regulations, getting some history from other municipalities. I have personally done two