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APPROVED 5/10/2010 <br /> <br />OC Board of Adjustment – 3/8/2010 Page 58 of 86 <br />1 2 3 <br />4 <br />5 6 7 <br />8 <br />9 10 11 <br />12 <br />13 14 15 <br />16 <br />17 18 19 <br />20 <br />21 22 23 <br />24 <br />25 26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 42 <br />43 <br />44 <br />45 46 <br />47 <br />48 <br />49 50 <br />51 <br />52 <br />53 54 <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: Ten on one side, ten on the other when you get into what has been referred to as Phase I of the kennel. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: I need to look at that drawing again but I remember seeing 20 kennels. <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: Maybe to get a door and move one. Again, it has been a long time since I spent the 100s of hours. These <br />are runs and these are runs. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: Where, I am sorry? <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: These are gates that go into the hallway in the middle. This is a dog run, this is a dog run. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: I have been calling those kennels. That is not …. <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: It is interchangeable. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: A dog run to me is sometimes put on a thing he runs up and down on. <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: I think that would be called a runner. I am guessing at that. Sorry for the confusion. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: One of our concerns that a big portion of this whole plan is keeping everything indoor and Tony testified <br />earlier that it was unclear whether we build Phase II with Phase I and I raised a questions about that and you just said that <br />Phase I and Phase II, if this is approved, you will build both of them at the same time. <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: Absolutely willing to put that in writing. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: You would be willing to stipulate that. <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: Yes. Again, a part of why I am doing this is because I hate being outdoors in the summer and I hate being <br />outdoors in the winter. There are about two months in the early year and two months in the late year where it isn’t awful to <br />be outdoors. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: Okay. You mentioned you had been doing this for how many years? <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: The first time somebody called me the dog guy I was sixteen. I have been doing it professionally since <br />1985 when I graduated dog training school. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: Is this how you plan on making your living.? <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: Yes. I have a couple of patents on dog toys. I am writing an obedience book. I am also an amateur <br />photographer and I do a little bit of that. The majority of my money comes from dog training. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: You do need this for your income. You have been doing that since 1985. <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: The other things are what …. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: Do you have a business permit in Orange County? <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: No. <br /> <br />Rob Maitland: Twenty years and you have never had a business permit, can you explain that? <br /> <br />Gene Lonsway: Nope. <br />