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APPROVED 11/11/2013 <br />OC Board of Adjustment – 9/10/2013 Page 23 of 38 <br />David Blankfard: That would normally match. The county data and the plat will match. 1 <br /> 2 <br />Michael Buck: This particular parcel, they put play equipment and so forth, there is no character 3 <br />of the land, no slope, no transmission line or other things that would exclude it from being 4 <br />counted but that is not the case on other parcels. 5 <br /> 6 <br />Geof Gledhill: I am going to object to this and subsequent ones of these. This board has no 7 <br />evidence of Mr. Buck’s qualifications to make these calculations to use Google in this matter. I 8 <br />see he has a control to prove to you it works but that doesn’t mean he has the ability to create 9 <br />these. It seems you need expert testimony as to how this Google maps system can prove what it 10 <br />is. 11 <br /> 12 <br />David Rooks: I don’t want to get hung up here because we keep getting hung up time after time. 13 <br />The point is a good one to the extent that Google relies on GIS if you superimpose GIS we know 14 <br />it is not a one to one match a true match and so to the extent that you are actually relying on that 15 <br />to locate things strikes me and makes that evidence somewhat unreliable. 16 <br /> 17 <br />Michael Buck: The County has in its own documentation relied on estimates. They are using 18 <br />those exact words when they talk about active recreational area. Mr. Gledhill was effusive a few 19 <br />moments of my technology skills and I would submit to you that all that is required to operate this 20 <br />Plano meter tool is the clicking of a mouse to locate a parcel location. I am not trying to claim 21 <br />that this board should use the calculations used by the Plano meter tools to make specific 22 <br />recreation acreage plans but I submit to you that when we add up all the acreage calculations we 23 <br />will not be off by a few feet but we will be off by substantial acreage and being off by substantial 24 <br />acreage is significant enough…. 25 <br /> 26 <br />David Rooks: It is 9:30 pm and we are stuck on something. I think Mr. Buck has a point he wants 27 <br />to get to. 28 <br /> 29 <br />Larry Wright: Could you get to your point please. 30 <br /> 31 <br />Michael Buck: I am trying to get to it without being argumentative. 32 <br /> 33 <br />Larry Wright: I want to see what you are going to say. 34 <br /> 35 <br />Michael Buck: These pictures as evidence, these are within the active recreation area and here 36 <br />is an overlay of the plat so if you look at the plat for Phase IV. That is the tot lot we just looked at. 37 <br /> Here is what is being claimed as active recreation in Phase IV on the plat. There is a utility 38 <br />transmission easement that goes through here and a stream buffer there. The next one I want to 39 <br />show you is on this portion of this parcel how much acreage can be used as a field. 40 <br /> 41 <br />Geof Gledhill: I object to that. 42 <br /> 43 <br />Larry Wright: What grounds? 44 <br /> 45 <br />Geof Gledhill: It doesn’t matter. [How much acreage can be used as a field?] 46 <br /> 47 <br />Michael Buck: The County is doing the exact same thing in their estimate. They have an 48 <br />estimate of how much acreage on this parcel can be used as active recreation. Their claim is 49 <br />1.07 acres because they include the parking lot and portions of the transmission utility so if we 50 <br />are going to exclude my ability then we must exclude the county’s ability to include their estimate. 51
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