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APPROVED 10/13/2014 OC Board of Adjustment – 8/27/2014 Page 27 of 64 Jerry Raines: It addresses the validity of whoever is holding this thing that handed it to me. It’s four 1 lines. It’s the biggest problem I’ve had with this entire easement. It says it is understood and 2 acknowledged by the undersigned that the persons securing this grant on behalf of the grantee, which is 3 the gentleman handed me this thing, and they are securing this grant on behalf of the pipeline, is without 4 authority to make any agreement with regard to the subject matter hereof which is not expressed herein 5 and that no such agreement will be binding on the grantee. In other words everything that man tells me, 6 he can promise me the moon and the only thing I can do is look at it. 7 8 Larry Wright: How does that apply to this Board? 9 10 James Bryan: Well, that is for the Board to determine, whether it applies or not. What I can suggest in 11 layman’s terms is that the petitioner has proposed a line a drawn line a pathway and its assuming that 12 they have the rights to do in that pathway. How they were going to get that right is through easements 13 either through condemnation or through purchasing of those easements but that is an assumption that 14 the Board should go on. I haven’t seen anything that the Board can rely on any standard that would be 15 met or unmet by talking about the particular either lawsuits or negotiations or anything like that. If the 16 Board would like to hear more from either the petitioner or the speakers about particular standards that 17 they believe would be met or not met how this is relevant to each one and then make that decision based 18 on that and ask to go forward to more relevant material. 19 20 Larry Wright: Members of the Board? What standards do you think this addresses? 21 22 Jerry Raines: Well, what it’s telling me is, see I walked in on these gentlemen down there talking to my 23 mom and dad. My mother is 84 and my dad is 85. They were handing them this piece of paper for them 24 to sign and I took it and read it. Then when I got to the bottom line it said that this man could not, in my 25 opinion, this says he can’t be trusted. What he says he does not have to stand by, the company does 26 not have to stand by. He can sit there and promise to me the moon but unless it is already written in this 27 piece of paper he can sit there and negotiate all day long and twist somebody’s arm or prod them or lead 28 them or whatever you want to call it to get them to sign this thing. 29 30 Larry Wright: I understand what you are saying. I have to figure out how this applies to the Board of 31 Adjustment. Now I have to go to our attorney. I do not see a standard within the UDO for anything. I 32 sympathize with this man this sounds to me like something that is in a court of law. It does not sound like 33 it is a venue for the Board of Adjustment. 34 35 James Bryan: If you fail to see relevancy to a particular standard and without objection from the rest of 36 the Board then I would encourage you if you fail to see relevancy and or you can take it at its full face 37 value and it doesn’t affect a standard so if you were to believe him, every word he says they are rascals 38 and say ok I believe you but even if they were the worst of the worst, it still doesn’t affect these 20 pages 39 of standards that Mr. Harvey has presented then I would encourage you to seek further testimony. 40 41 Larry Wright: Do you have anything else to present? 42 43 Jerry Raines: Oh yes sir. I have. The County addresses the same thing, I thought this was going to be, 44 I thought I was going to be addressing people who understand. I was told when I come here that the 45 people down here would have good common sense. I was hoping that would be the case. That is yet to 46 be determined in my view. As we have problems as far as these people coming through how’s it going to 47 affect our taxes? It’s going to devalue our land it is going to affect our taxes? 48 49 Larry Wright: We have to hear an expert witness that says that. We cannot. 50 51 Mark Micol: Have you hired an appraiser? 52 53 Jerry Raines: I talked to the county appraiser the other day. He says my dad’s property would be 54 devalued 25 percent. He’s at 209,000 thousand. 55