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APPROVED 10/13/2014 OC Board of Adjustment – 8/27/2014 Page 15 of 64 David Blankfard: Do you know what the 24 inch is being run at? 1 Matt Rhoads: That is not our pipeline. 2 Andrew Moore: The 24 inch is designed to operate up to 1,000 psi. 3 Rob Priester: Let clarify, the 16 will be designed to operate at that 1,000 but it will not operate that high. 4 David Blankfard: What is the normal pressure for these types of pipes? Is 800 a common range? 5 Andrew Moore: For PSNC it is. Our supplier is Williams Transco and a majority of their pipelines are 6 operated at 800 PSI so that is the pressure we get in them. That is what our pipelines operate at. 7 David Blankfard: How large it the right of way currently? 8 Matt Rhoads: The easements are 50 feet is the necessary right of way for having the two pipelines 9 there. Most of these easements are from the 1950s where it was not common practice to specify a width 10 but even in the 1950s to have two pipelines, which these easements permit, you needed at least 50 feet 11 and, obviously they can speak to it better, but there has got to be room for if you dig you have to have 12 your trench at the right for OSHA, a place to pile the dirt and all that sort of stuff. 13 David Blankfard: What is the depth of the existing 10 inch? W hat is the cover of the existing 10 inch 14 line? 15 Rob Priester: It is going to vary throughout the existing line. 16 Jeff Schmitt: What is the minimum? 17 Andrew Moore: At the time it was constructed, there was no minimum. From our studies where we have 18 gone and located the line and taken depth measurements, the … I want to say that the shallowest point 19 we have identified has been 30 inches. 20 David Blankfard: Has there been any problems with that existing 10 inch line in the last, since 1950 21 when it was put in? 22 Andrew Moore: No problems other than we did have a problem seven or eight years ago. As part of a 23 new DOT project, we went out and relocated the part of the pipeline for them and after the relocation, 24 they hit the pipeline so it was third party damage but nothing was no failure because of lack of 25 maintenance or anything like that. 26 David Blankfard: So you have an existing 10 inch that was put in 1950ish and now we are at 16 inch, 27 what drove the 16 inch, why not a 24 or another 10? 28 Andrew Moore: The existing 10 inch is reaching its capacity. In other words, we can’t really serve any 29 additional loads off of that line so we need additional capacity so we are building this new line to meet 30 our current needs and the needs we have currently prescribed and as well as for some additional future 31 capacity. We feel the 16 inch will satisfy that for a good number of years just as the 10 inch has satisfied 32 that for 60 years. Our intent is for this pipeline to satisfy that future load for another 10, 20, 30 years. 33 Mark Micol: What is the average lifespan for the line? 34 Andrew Moore: I don’t know that there is a … at this point in time; I don’t know that a lifespan is defined. 35 For PSNC, our oldest pipeline, this is one of the oldest, our vantage line is the first pipeline that PSNC 36 installed so our oldest pipeline is 60, 62 years old which is within the industry is young compared to other 37 operators. You have pipelines that were built in the 1920s and 30s and are still in operation today. 38