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APPROVED 10/13/2014 OC Board of Adjustment – 8/27/2014 Page 11 of 64 Matt Rhoads: Is there adequate fire, police, and emergency medical services coverage for this pipeline, 1 for the proposed pipeline? 2 Rob Priester: We feel like there is, yes. 3 Matt Rhoads: I guess fire, police and EMS are already covering the existing 10 inch and existing 24 4 inch. How does PSNC work with first responders like that? 5 Rob Priester: We go through first responder training. We have damage prevention plans as all 6 requirements of our federal regulations. As part of those, I believe, yearly training. That would go 7 through the local residents. Obviously if the county staff with the fire marshal would like to meet, we 8 would welcome any opportunity to meet with any first responders. We have actually met with, I believe it 9 is the Oak Grove Fire Department. We have already met with one fire department but I think that was in 10 Alamance County. Don’t quote me on the county for that one. 11 Matt Rhoads: Why not just replace the 10 inch line with a larger line? Why is it a second line? 12 Rob Priester: We cannot afford to take the 10 inch out of service as it serves different communities. 13 Matt Rhoads: Does having two lines provide some redundancy to prevent outages of service in the 14 future? 15 Rob Priester: It does. Having a secondary line, it allows, it is more of a liability in case, you know, one 16 would need to come out of service for any particular reason. 17 Matt Rhoads: If we can talk a little bit about safety, can you kind of describe how you guys are regulated 18 on design and construction and operation and inspection and maintenance and all these sorts of things? 19 Rob Priester: Ok. We are heavily regulated by PHMSA and the Department of Transportation. 20 Matt Rhoads: The Federal Department of Transportation. 21 Rob Priester: Yes. The Federal Department of Transportation which has delegated authority down to the 22 NCUC but is part of those title 49 Federal Regulation part 192 which sets forth your minimum safety 23 standards. Those involve the design, the material used, the installation practices and the ongoing 24 maintenance of the existing pipelines once they are in place. We meet or exceed all of those 25 requirements as part of those codes. 26 Matt Rhoads: So safety wise, can you explain kind of the materials used in what PSNC is doing to make 27 this as safe as possible. 28 Rob Priester: We have very stringent specification on the pipe that we use. It is a steel pipeline and the 29 …. It is American made steel pipeline that we feel like is the highest quality. As part of the regulations, 30 there is design formulas and things of that nature that limit what our maximum pressure we can run on 31 the line and just the way that we designed, we feel like that we have more than an adequate safety factor 32 into the pipeline. 33 Matt Rhoads: So does that mean that you are using materials that are … would be enough for a higher 34 pressure line than what you are actually doing? 35 Rob Priester: Yes. 36 Matt Rhoads: And does the federal regulation require you to have emergency plans and damage 37 prevention plans? 38