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Approved 3113117 <br />1 scientists in me, it was a survey circulating through online email and social networking sites. So <br />2 it's not a scientific poll. <br />3 <br />4 Michael Ogburn: I do not believe that it is either. I think it's an opinion poll, much like probably the <br />5 pre - election polls, and it's probably just as accurate. That said... <br />6 <br />7 Matt Hughes: Well technically those types of polls people don't seek them out though. <br />8 <br />9 Michael Ogburn: Ok. Let's... <br />10 <br />11 Matt Hughes: It's not a random sample... <br />12 <br />13 Michael Ogburn: That's fine. Let's assume that in fact it is biased, ok, that's fine. Again, somebody <br />14 took the time to at least do a survey. And I believe, if I recall correctly, their findings were <br />15 something like it had an impact on 78% of potential buyers. Right, let's say that they missed it by a <br />16 factor of four. That's still 20 %. We understand that whether you agree with their numbers the <br />17 conclusion is that people don't want to look on a big metal pole. I don't find that to be difficult to <br />18 agree with. <br />19 <br />20 Michael Harvey: Madame Chair, just for the record, we're dealing with Opponents Exhibit 1. <br />21 <br />22 Samantha Cabe: Ok, thank you. <br />23 <br />24 Matt Hughes: The other question about this material was regarding inaudible 55:11 and their <br />25 perceived health affects from this and I was wondering... You said that... How do you account for <br />26 that when you appraise things, I mean, there's things out there. Let's say vaccines, for example, <br />27 people believe that vaccines can cause all sorts of diseases or afflictions including the current <br />28 occupant of the White House but that has no basis. So how does that? <br />29 <br />30 Michael Ogburn: Ok, again, so... <br />31 <br />32 Matt Hughes: So how do you account for things that where people are making an opinion of <br />33 something or it influences them. How do you? <br />34 <br />35 Michael Ogburn: What is real, for those people, what it really is or what they perceive for it to be. <br />36 Well in their instance it may be perception, it really doesn't make any difference as long as a <br />37 portion perceive it might be a problem. We understand if it's one out of ten, if it's one out of a <br />38 hundred, we're still going to have a downward shift in that demand curve. <br />39 <br />40 Matt Hughes: Let's say, do you weight that downward shift differently versus someone who just <br />41 doesn't want to look at a metal pole versus those who think there's some sort of health issue? <br />42 <br />43 Michael Ogburn: My personal opinion is that it's much more of an eyesore factor than it is <br />44 because of the EMT's. The only place that I'm aware of where proximity to tall metal poles is a <br />45 bonus is in New England it appears that snowmobilers like to be next to high power transmission <br />46 easement so they can zip up and down the hills. But other than that I haven't found anywhere else <br />47 where they like to be next to big poles. <br />48 <br />49 Matt Hughes: The other thing was the Journal Article you mentioned. <br />50 <br />OC Board of Adjustment — 12/12/16 Page 91 of 156 <br />