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Approved 3113117 <br />1 to? Someone might want to live on the highest peak and I don't remember his sphere but with that <br />2 view and so on and so forth? <br />3 <br />4 Michael Ogburn: We understand that somebody that purposely selects a lot on one of the highest <br />5 points in Orange County is buying it to catch that vista view. Otherwise you're going to build down <br />6 it on the bottom of the hill. You're going to be on top of the mountain because you want a top of <br />7 the mountain experience. <br />8 <br />9 Samantha Cabe: I wouldn't call this a mountain. <br />10 <br />11 Michael Ogburn: Well, technically it is. I won't argue with you but technically it is a mountain. So <br />12 you're going to build it up there. Now, let's face it, in excess of $1,000,000 you're talking about <br />13 something that's relatively rare. So these people that may consider purchasing a like property, <br />14 their number one competition is not of the houses that are currently on the market. His point of <br />15 buying a piece of dirt and building it just the way they want to. But I'll buy yours if I can get it for <br />16 the right price and adapt it to my taste, so they are marketable. They often have a loss between <br />17 value in use and value in exchange, they do. But, if I have this period discretionary buyer that's <br />18 looking for this top of the mountain it is going to affect them the same or greater than somebody <br />19 that's buying a subdivision house. I would argue it's going to affect them a great deal more. They <br />20 have the discretionary income to go any doggone place they want to. Why pick one with a 200- <br />21 foot pole in view? I can't name a single reason. <br />22 <br />23 Samantha Cabe: Except that it's the highest point in Orange County. <br />24 <br />25 Michael Ogburn: Well, you can go over to the next ridge, which is Governor's Club, and that's <br />26 where the build their estate homes up on top of that. Not on golf course, they're up on top of the <br />27 ridge so you can get that 40 -mile vista. Ok. <br />28 <br />29 John Price: The property that you're talking about that you studied the sales prices of those <br />30 properties, that's the same development as David Smith used in his report, is that correct? <br />31 <br />32 Michael Ogburn: That's correct. Yes, sir. And so the first thing then is, ok let's see what immediate <br />33 proximity to that cell phone tower is, does it have an affect? And then the next logical thing, to me, <br />34 would be, ok does it have an affect on that neighborhood versus a near by neighborhood. So <br />35 when you look in the MLS for the same time frame period new construction the majority of the <br />36 new construction was in the development immediately west on Holly Springs Road, Sunridge. And <br />37 so I did a study where I pulled all of the new construction, same time frame from the properties in <br />38 Sunset Ridge and the ones in Cobble Ridge. And found that the difference between those two <br />39 neighborhoods was a difference of 1- square foot, on median. But the difference in sales price on a <br />40 per foot basis was something like 16 -17% difference for the same size house. I looked a little <br />41 more and it turns out that the lots inside of Sunset Ridge, on average, were selling for more than <br />42 the ones in Cobble Ridge. So I adjusted down for that and then the differential between those two <br />43 was 12 %. <br />44 <br />45 John Price: When you say all things being equal, smaller houses going to sell for larger square <br />46 foot price, when you say all things being equal does that include lot size? <br />47 <br />48 Michael Ogburn: So then what we're expecting is that the smaller houses got a similar value site, <br />49 it's got similar amenities, two car garage, 2 and a half baths, kitchen, HVAC, porch, deck, <br />50 whatever, the amenities happen to be whatever is standard for that particular market area, so yes <br />OC Board of Adjustment — 12/12/16 Page 86 of 156 <br />
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