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Approved 3113117 <br />1 Laura Goode: It was not confidential. It's proprietary information. <br />2 <br />3 John Price: Yeah, proprietary, right. And the information I was seeking I didn't believe was <br />4 confidential. Proprietary, but it went to issues of whether they had considered properly alternatives <br />5 and taken those into consideration... I have a couple of housekeeping matters, if you don't mind. <br />6 Mr. Evan Gwen, when he testified regarding certain photographs that were taken of the balloon <br />7 test and also several maps if we could have those entered into the record. <br />8 <br />9 Samantha Cabe: All of these were the ones that we saw on the computer but we didn't have <br />10 physical copies of? <br />11 <br />12 John Price: Correct. And also, reference was made to the letters that I had... The supplemental <br />13 submission that I had made by letter of January 3rd and there was a response and I filed a reply <br />14 on January 7t", and also filed our bonus position to on applicants compliance and I was requested <br />15 to file with the Board, prepare and file with the Board sending forth our proposed findings of fact. <br />16 I'll request that those be made part of the record not for evidentiary purposes but really setting <br />17 forth our legal position. <br />18 <br />19 Samantha Cabe: Thank you. Are these paper copies of those because we got them via email, 1 <br />20 believe? <br />21 <br />22 Michael Harvey: Now we're calling the pictures Opposition 5. <br />23 <br />24 Barry Katz: Is this all going to be number 6? <br />25 <br />26 Michael Harvey: This is all going to be number 6. So both letters and the findings of the opposites. <br />27 <br />28 John Price: Mr. Ogburn, would you state your name and you residence please? <br />29 <br />30 Michael Ogburn: Michael Ogburn, I live at 3236 Trenton Road in Raleigh. <br />31 <br />32 John Price: What is your occupation? <br />33 <br />34 Michael Ogburn: I am a real estate appraiser. <br />35 <br />36 John Price: Are you licensed by the state of North Carolina as a real estate appraiser? <br />37 <br />38 Michael Ogburn: I have a State Certificate, yes. <br />39 <br />40 John Price: How long have you been licensed or certified? <br />41 <br />42 Michael Ogburn: Ever since they started in 1991. <br />43 <br />44 John Price: How many years have you been involved in performing appraisals? <br />45 <br />46 Michael Ogburn: Full time for 33, prior to that probably an additional 6 or 7 on a part time basis. <br />47 <br />48 John Price: How many appraisals over the years would you estimate you performed? <br />49 <br />50 Michael Ogburn: 10-12,000. <br />OC Board of Adjustment — 12/12/16 Page 81 of 156 <br />