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Approved 3113117 1 David Haughney: Yes, it will. And the plots show that. I disagree with his interpretation of it. As 2 you can see on the plots, we don't have them pulled up right now but... 3 4 Samantha Cabe: It's on tab 7. 5 6 David Haughney: Green and blue colors cover the entirety of Mount Carmel Church Road now, as 7 compared to without the site you see a lot of gray, black, and white, which are no service and 8 dropped calls. No service, and very poor service. And contrary to one thing they were saying, it is 9 all green and blue now on Mount Carmel. They conveniently drew a yellow line along that road, 10 which covered up the colors. That yellow line that was on their plot was not mine; they added that. 11 It covers up the colors on Mount Carmel. If you look at the plot without the yellow line you will see 12 that green and blue, it's complete coverage up and down the road. They only provide the only 13 connections we need to those surrounding sites. 14 15 Barry Katz: So you're saying that actually smaller towers won't give you the same effective 16 coverage that this large tower will? 17 18 David Haughney: Not at all. They cover very small footprints. 19 20 Barry Katz: I understand, but it would mean not putting in one but... In your research you weren't 21 calculating how many small towers it would take to give the coverage that this large tower did and 22 what the cost benefits would be, etcetera? Was that part of your consideration? Or was your 23 consideration merely what will you get out of this 199 -foot tower? 24 25 David Haughney: It's always a part of our consideration because we do deploy those 26 technologies, and it's just not practical and feasible, and it's not applied anywhere. There's no 27 example of a small cell or DAS network that's been spoken up to cover a huge, 4- square mile, 28 rural, sparse suburban, and that's what this area is. 29 30 Samantha Cabe: Are those types of technologies typically used in more urban areas or higher 31 density areas like UNC where you're using them? 32 33 David Haughney: Yes ma'am, we are using there and other places, airports, malls, arenas, we 34 have an installation inside the game dome, we have another DAS installation inside Keenan 35 Stadium, to handle that huge amount of capacity of a converging area. It's just not practical for 36 this kind of large, open, rural, and kind of light suburban mix area. And that's why another provider 37 in the past has proposed a similar solution and it's come to my attention, I don't know if it's been 38 submitted but, another service provider is interested in... has noted interest in signing on to this 39 tower. But no service provider has... in the record whatsoever has proposed what they're talking 40 about for this area. 41 42 Matt Hughes: And I believe most of what you just mentioned you covered in our previous... 43 44 David Haughney: It is sir, I believe that most of what we're talking about is covered in both the 45 written and previous statements. Yes sir. 46 47 Barry Katz: I understand. I've got a question for Mr. Harvey. The Mount Carmel Church Road, part 48 of it, certainly the area where the cell tower would be, is in the rural buffer? 49 50 Michael Harvey: Yes sir. OC Board of Adjustment — 12/12/16 Page 126 of 156