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DRAFT OC Board of Adjustment – 11/9/15 Page 120 of 156 Laura Goode: Absolutely, so the maps we provided. But those circles were not placed on those 1 maps by Verizon. 2 3 Ben Levitan: No, I apologize. Everything in color was what came out of the application. The circles 4 and explanations I did put there myself and I do apologize for not explaining that but I did that, you 5 understand why I did that. 6 7 Laura Goode: I don’t have any further questions. 8 9 Barry Katz: I have a question. TowerCom and Verizon are two separate businesses, correct? 10 11 Laura Goode: Correct. TowerCom is a tower building company and so they’re building it to 12 Verizon’s needs. 13 14 Barry Katz: Right, so you contracted TowerCom to build yours? 15 16 Laura Goode: Correct. 17 18 Barry Katz: Before I came to this meeting one of the questions that I had in my mind, not knowing 19 an answer at all, was were there alternatives to building this 199-foot tower that would be 20 effective? What we’re hearing is that Verizon has considered this kind of question in way in a 21 different context for other purposes and everything and it may be apples and oranges, I don’t 22 know. But, do you have a witness or somebody that could explain to us why, in this circumstance, 23 putting this tower in would be better than existing alternatives that would not require this 24 approach? 25 26 Laura Goode: Sure, so I think there’s two ways to answer that question. Yes, we do have a 27 witness and I can call him right now. But it’s a little bit… If you want to hear it, that’s what I’m 28 hearing from you and we can just address it in a couple short questions if that’s what you would 29 like to hear, but in terms of looking at other structures within the search area North Carolina 30 General Statutes says that the applicant only has to prove an inability to co-locate within their 31 search area, which is identified in Exhibit 5, or tab 5 of the application. 32 33 Samantha Cabe: And what does that Statute reference, do you have that? 34 35 Laura Goode: Sure, it is… yes, I have it right here. That is North Carolina General Statutes 153A-36 349.52 and we have provided an inability to co-locate statement because the first thing that 37 Verizon tries to do when they have a search ring, they want to go out and find an existing 38 structure, like a water tower, a building, anything that they can co-locate on because it is so much 39 less expensive and so less time consuming to co-locate. And so there is a signed statement from 40 John Yeagley, who testified at the last hearing about this. His statement, his inability co-locate 41 statement is tab 21 and he testified to the fact that he went out in that search area and there were 42 no structures within the search area to co-locate. Now, in terms of your second question, we do 43 have a witness who could explain why small cells or other technologies would not work for this 44 network agenda. 45 46 Barry Katz: Is this germane? Am I asking a question that’s pertinent to this because what I just 47 heard was we’re talking about within that circle and everything and the Statute says such and 48 such and it may not be even relevant. 49 50 122