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DRAFT OC Board of Adjustment – 11/9/15 Page 110 of 156 Ben Levitan: Absolutely. Worst-case scenario that I can see is you put up a 27 to 30-foot 1 monopole cell tower and you camouflage it as a tree. That’s the most… otherwise I think this 2 probably, I haven’t driven the whole area and I haven’t done a site survey, but I believe just from 3 my general knowledge there’s sufficient buildings, lampposts, utility posts, water towers that you 4 could use. And if you take the search ring 5-miles there’s plenty of existing cell towers already in 5 that search that could be focused towards providing this coverage. I don’t see the necessity, I’m 6 talking from a technical point of view, I don’t see… If I’m Verizon and I’m asked or one of my guys 7 brought me this design I would tell them no, go back to where from. 8 9 Samantha Cabe: Let me ask you this. Does your opinion take into account that, essentially, 10 Verizon would have to get permission from somebody to put these, whatever kind of cell tower it 11 is, whether it’s the tall one, the medium one, or the small cell? Essentially they can’t put anything 12 where someone’s not willing to lease them the property or allow them to? 13 14 Ben Levitan: Verizon has a department that does nothing but manage landlords. Every cell phone 15 company does. And that’s all they do. They go out and…. Yeah, so I mean, this is part of the 16 business. I mean, they’re sitting here trying to... just as they have to sit here and get permission 17 from the city to do that, it’s part of the business. 18 19 Matt Hughes: So in your expert opinion, why would TowerCom and Verizon want to go this route? 20 21 Ben Levitan: I’m not privy to… Either they’ve just made a mistake, I don’t… For me, looking at 22 this, I cannot see why you would design it this way. I just don’t see it. I don’t think it’s going to be 23 cheaper. I can’t speculate. 24 25 Matt Hughes: Were you here at the last hearing? 26 27 Ben Levitan: Oh yes, until 11:35. 28 29 Matt Hughes: So you heard their expert go through what they were considering, why it wasn’t 30 appropriate, and… 31 32 Ben Levitan: The bottom line is if you look at this chart, this solution doesn’t fix the problem. You 33 want Mount Carmel Church Road to have coverage just like 15-501. Why would you put this up if 34 it’s not going to solve your problem? I heard everything you said but it doesn’t solve the problem. 35 36 Matt Hughes: Remind me on this, up here… Where’s 15-501? 37 38 Ben Levitan: You see that? See how nicely that’s… 39 40 Matt Hughes: I’m not as familiar with below the UNC Campus area. 41 42 Ben Levitan: I agree with you, of course. That’s a heavily trafficked road. And so the coverage is 43 real good. Mount Carmel Church Road I can tell you all the carriers. I researched all the carriers 44 and what their coverage is like on that road. It’s all similar, kind of low. But the fact is, the fact that 45 they all have not put in improvements just shows that it’s not a priority. It’s a low cell phone traffic 46 road. What’s there is probably sufficient for everybody. Certainly AT&T said yeah, that’s sufficient. 47 Sprint has said the coverage we have there is sufficient. 48 49 112