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that the other party cannot then ask questions about the document. Where’d it come from, how was it 1 created, what information went into your writing what you wrote in this document? There is no one here 2 about whom we can ask those questions. And so, that’s the other problem with it. I don’t disagree with your 3 attorney’s thought processes that you may or may not end up in error if you have something before you but 4 if you don’t end up considering it or it doesn’t weigh in your final decision that’s there but that’s the reason 5 that I need to object because my objection needs to be of the record. And I truly can’t tell you what Harnett 6 County has done with regard to their definition of agritourism and for you to receive that and for that to be 7 probated to you as to what the ultimate decision you must make as a Board . You get to be the group of 8 people who ibnterrupt the meaning of this term and the context of how Orange County is applying it. And 9 you can listen to us make legal argument, you can look at legal authorities that we may provide to you 10 including, Professor Owens, who by the way is a dear friend of mine so I’m not insulting him but I think he 11 would agree with me that he is neither case law nor statute. You certainly can consider legal argument from 12 both of us, and you should. But you can’t substitute your job and your judgment in interrupting what the 13 statute mean by reading something somebody out there may have written and may have posted on a 14 website for a government entity or for any other reason. In this proceeding or in any other legal proceeding. 15 And so that’s my concern. I don’t want to get you hung up on an evidentiary issue for an extended period of 16 time. I have to object for the record. But that’s what’s going into my deciding that I need to make an 17 objection. 18 19 Karen Barrows: Does that answer your question? 20 21 Susan Halkiotis: Well, it begs another question. Which is, why wasn’t it introduced 2 weeks ago? 22 James Bryan: If I may also to maybe cut short the argument a little bit. It’s my opinion that anything that 23 gets handed up to you guys, if you accept it and take physically possession of it then it’s in the record. 24 What we’re actually doing would be striking from the record. Pretending that we didn’t see it. But the 25 reviewing court wants to know what you all saw and what you based your decision on out of what you saw. 26 Did you see it and then did you base your decision on it? So again, I would urge great latitude in accepting 27 for the sole reason of expediting the process. To make it go quickly. But this is of the Board of Layman; I do 28 not have the legal background so you give yourself great deference in accepting it and then review it with a 29 much stricter eye. 30 31 Barry Katz: Can we just simply state for the record then that whatever decision we make will not be based 32 on certain elements that are in this folder? 33 34 James Bryan: You can do that now or you can do that later, in deliberation. 35 36 Barry Katz: Ok. 37 38 Karen Barrows: I think we have a motion. 39 40 MOTION made by Matt Hughes to enter exhibits 1-21 into the record. Seconded by Susan Halkiotis. 41 VOTE: Unanimous 42 43 Andy Petesch: Alright, and not to scratch an existing wound but I have 2 other documents. The first is 44 simply, and this may already be in the record but just to be sure, the approved building permit that was 45 issued to SPG. 46 47 Michael Harvey: This would be SPG exhibit 22? 48 77