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activity, it can change behavior patterns in school, and by having educational activities on the farm I think 1 that's an opportunity to start doing that here. 2 3 Andy Petesch: And finally, can you discuss your analysis of the Brewer farm plan? 4 5 Erin White: Yes. I think it's a plan that still getting worked out. This is typical of new farmers. I think that's 6 why we have so many workshops and training opportunities for Farms including incubator farm sites such 7 as the one here in Orange County. And looking at the plan I think that it is a thoughtful approach towards 8 building a diversified cash flow that looks at short-term opportunities through agritourism. Understanding 9 the flowers hopefully come in the next couple years in a meaningful way and then really looking longer-term 10 at these chestnuts. And the idea that investing all this time and money and chestnuts as a single operation 11 for a farm would require a really massive capital to wait out a period of time before you go to return. And so 12 to me diversifying this inaudible flow makes a lot of sense. I also recognize in talking to them that there's 13 still a lot of things to work out and in my work I haven't met, certainly a young farmer, many farmers at all 14 that honestly feel like they have everything worked out. I think farming in general is honestly a lot about 15 design. It's a lot about solving problems as they come up. Markets change, technologies change, farmers 16 are always learning. And this farm plan, to me, looks like something that is getting closer and I think as far 17 as a new farmer goes it seems like it's at an appropriate state of development. And in addition to that, I kind 18 of touched on it already but I think that this farm plan in particular supports many of the objectives of 19 Orange County's comprehensive plan and many of the objectives in Orange County's agricultural 20 development and farmland preservation plan. 21 22 Andy Petesch: Could you describe or summarize some of the purposes behind the agritourism policy for 23 encouraging Farmers to participate in agritourism. What benefits does that provide? 24 25 LeAnne Brown: Objection. Whose policies? Are you asking his opinion about agritourism, are you asking 26 him about policies adopted by others? I'm not sure what you're asking. 27 28 Andy Petesch: Has the state adopted a policy to encourage agritourism that you are aware of? 29 30 Erin White: Absolutely. I think it was added to their definition of farming and there's a General Statute 31 specific to agritourism that defines it and makes it an acceptable practice for a bona fide Farm 32 33 Andy Petesch: And why would that be a policy that the state would want to endorse? 34 35 Erin White: I think that our agricultural system is facing a lot of challenges and agritourism presents a lot of 36 opportunities to stabilize and strengthen agricultural sector. 37 38 Andy Petesch: And with respect to the role of the barn on the farm could you discuss that? Because you 39 analyze that from a design standpoint. 40 41 Erin White: My first response to the barn was that it’s just big, open flexible space. I think that that's a really 42 important attribute for any agricultural operation and an open building is inherently more flexible than one 43 that starts to get built out with more detail. And I think, that through the seasons as they learn more about 44 the farming operations and the volume that push and pull on their space having, that open space will be an 45 important attribute. 46 47 70