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1 Barry Katz: One that’s bigger than the one there? One that’s way bigger? 2 3 Paul Parker: Yes, it’s to meet the standards… 4 5 Barry Katz: And getting that culvert in is not going to require… 6 7 Paul Parker: We won’t be destroying more than 50 feet of stream… 8 9 Barry Katz: But as far as the vehicles, etcetera… The management of strategically getting that culvert in; 10 will that require more than just a Bobcat? 11 12 Paul Parker: It will definitely require an 18-wheeler truck to bring in the culvert. 13 14 Barry Katz: And that’s once? 15 16 Paul Parker: Yes. 17 18 Barry Katz: Somehow we just want to make sure that the people that live on Old Oak Place are not worse 19 off; we need to approve this and this issue… We just want to see to what extent we have a responsibility for 20 the adjacent properties to make sure that they’re left whole by this event. And now we’re getting the 21 impression that it’s really not us but the DOT that’s responsible for doing that. Would you say that that’s so? 22 23 Michael Harvey: For the maintenance issues on Old Oak Place; yes. That’s going to be on the DOT. 24 25 Barry Katz: Ok. 26 27 Michael Harvey: But I will say one of the reasons staff recommended the condition is to try to address the 28 concern of the residents and why we reached out to the DOT after the neighborhood meeting. 29 30 Barry Katz: Well it’s certainly a concern for us but we’re limited to how we address this issue. 31 32 Samantha Cabe: Any other questions for any of the applicant’s witnesses from the Board? … At this time if 33 there are any witnesses for the opposition; if they could come to the microphone, state whether you’ve 34 been sworn and… 35 36 Jerry Bouche: Yeah, my name is Jerry Bouche and I have been sworn. I’m the property owner at 2100 Old 37 Forest Drive; which is on the corner of Old Oak and Old Forest. So the road will be right along my fence 38 line there. So first of all, I’m under the impression the state maintenance ends about less than 100 feet from 39 the corner of Old Oak and Old Forest because that’s where the asphalt ends. I have always maintained the 40 rock and grass substrate next to my lawn. I keep it mowed during the summer and I keep the rock and 41 gravel at level. I know when the state first took maintenance of the Wingate subdivision they push that 42 snow right up to the edge of the asphalt and that’s as far as they go. So, I think that’s where state 43 maintenance ends. My question is, for someone who will accept responsibility I think he says that the state 44 transportation will have to do that. I can also tell you now that when, a year and a half ago, when they cut 45 that timber they absolutely destroyed the culverts bringing those trucks in and out of this, just the one lane 46 paved road throughout that subdivision. And this property gets saturated pretty quickly, it’s just grass. The 47 rock that the timber company put down is gone and I can park my car… I do use that for parking sometimes 48 because I have my daughter’s car, my wife’s car, my company vehicle and sometimes a company route 49 12